From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Daniel Koning Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#41781: 27.0.91; [PATCH] Eldoc describes the wrong function when reading an expression from the minibuffer Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2020 11:42:39 -0500 Message-ID: References: <83h7v6w51h.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="74564"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.91 (darwin) Cc: 41781@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 23 18:43:11 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jnm0s-000JJJ-Tq for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 23 Jun 2020 18:43:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51630 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jnm0r-0006Qt-O8 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 23 Jun 2020 12:43:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46402) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jnm0k-0006QK-Db for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Jun 2020 12:43:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:53718) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jnm0k-0001ff-4Y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Jun 2020 12:43:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jnm0k-0002AN-1U for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Jun 2020 12:43:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Daniel Koning Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2020 16:43:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 41781 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 41781-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B41781.15929305778316 (code B ref 41781); Tue, 23 Jun 2020 16:43:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 41781) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jun 2020 16:42:57 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37031 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jnm0f-0002A4-0M for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Jun 2020 12:42:57 -0400 Original-Received: from sender4-of-o56.zoho.com ([136.143.188.56]:21655) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jnm0a-00029u-TW for 41781@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Jun 2020 12:42:55 -0400 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1592930566; cv=none; d=zohomail.com; s=zohoarc; b=mqkj3PvpynDVeDcs8+TIGROLpiuYLzfMTRdLHUmEEnglTN/g500LC3XkWu9PDx1CnddW+l7IkKnPNuSSf/QcmPRQIfy5y4i6g7AryVxjVeSNhxfa7iCZ+jDsAhWCridc61ZRPSHCshii4hQ2U2if42XvMKFZS1GYwvqq+dqHR6U= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zohomail.com; s=zohoarc; t=1592930566; h=Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Date:From:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Message-ID:References:Subject:To; bh=f9+y9J2Zlh09dfp9pBG7WPARrqJlsoir5iHP1kTuKJc=; b=hUEr/c9wXwnEMSDK0pg8IaO+GYEoh0kY+ngU7N/zRXh9MEVxxpW+wff7g3c9a9nwtHyCZK0qnTjAANQNRrLKRHgTupqnJiIe7ijGu6/5rD5RV4PM8lpZ+RGJOtqXAeu6ebPunvIFxN/hOHoSMYWn/CZw84c1i/4puU6RaPe7780= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.zohomail.com; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=dk@danielkoning.com; dmarc=pass header.from= header.from= Original-Received: from cornelius (112.157.239.35.bc.googleusercontent.com [35.239.157.112]) by mx.zohomail.com with SMTPS id 1592930563198738.6216582644768; Tue, 23 Jun 2020 09:42:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Tue, 23 Jun 2020 10:09:05 -0400") X-ZohoMailClient: External X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:182321 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> Right now, unless overridden by eshell or another package like it, the >> minibuffer is always in `minibuffer-inactive-mode', > > I don't think that's true in the sense of "you get the behavior of > minibuffer-inactive-mode" (most importantly you don't get its keymap). > It may be true in the sense of "that's what `major-mode` says", but > that's rather irrelevant. I see your point, but I doubt most users and elisp writers would agree that it's irrelevant what the value of `major-mode' says in plain English. We should be able to count on drawing some conclusions from it. Generally, the use of one major for two very different keymaps and program states (while circumventing the problems by changing things =C3=A0 = la carte) strikes me as a pattern worth deprecating. But I think we agree on that. Daniel