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From: Helmut Eller <eller.helmut@gmail.com>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
Cc: 745@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com
Subject: bug#745: pop-to-buffer, frames, and input focus
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:02:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m28wufq2xt.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48B7C0DA.8040104@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:26:50 +0200")

* martin rudalics [2008-08-29 11:26+0200] writes:

>> Emacs could first test whether the window manager is EWMH compliant
>
> How?  Emacs can't even test whether the window manager is click to focus
> or focus follows mouse.

xterm.c:wm_supports implements the test already.  By inspecting the
_NET_SUPPORTED property on the root window.  A compliant window manager
must enumerate the supported features there.

See http://standards.freedesktop.org/wm-spec/1.4/ar01s03.html#id2523263.

E.g. for Sawfish I get

shell$ xprop _NET_SUPPORTED
_NET_SUPPORTED(ATOM) = _NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW, _NET_CLIENT_LIST,
_NET_CLIENT_LIST_STACKING, _NET_CLOSE_WINDOW, _NET_CURRENT_DESKTOP,
_NET_DESKTOP_GEOMETRY, _NET_DESKTOP_NAMES, _NET_DESKTOP_VIEWPORT,
_NET_NUMBER_OF_DESKTOPS, _NET_PROTOCOLS, _NET_SHOWING_DESKTOP,
_NET_SUPPORTED, _NET_SUPPORTING_WM_CHECK, _NET_WORKAREA,
_NET_WM_DESKTOP, _NET_WM_ICON_GEOMETRY, _NET_WM_MOVERESIZE,
_NET_WM_MOVERESIZE_MOVE, _NET_WM_MOVERESIZE_SIZE_BOTTOM,
_NET_WM_MOVERESIZE_SIZE_BOTTOMLEFT, _NET_WM_MOVERESIZE_SIZE_BOTTOMRIGHT,
_NET_WM_MOVERESIZE_SIZE_LEFT, _NET_WM_MOVERESIZE_SIZE_RIGHT,
_NET_WM_MOVERESIZE_SIZE_TOP, _NET_WM_MOVERESIZE_SIZE_TOPLEFT,
_NET_WM_MOVERESIZE_SIZE_TOPRIGHT, _NET_WM_MOVERESIZE_SIZE_KEYBOARD,
_NET_WM_MOVERESIZE_MOVE_KEYBOARD, _NET_WM_PING, _NET_WM_STATE,
_NET_WM_STATE_ABOVE, _NET_WM_STATE_ADD, _NET_WM_STATE_BELOW,
_NET_WM_STATE_FULLSCREEN, _NET_WM_STATE_MAXIMIZED,
_NET_WM_STATE_MAXIMIZED_HORZ, _NET_WM_STATE_MAXIMIZED_VERT,
_NET_WM_STATE_REMOVE, _NET_WM_STATE_SHADED, _NET_WM_STATE_SKIP_PAGER,
_NET_WM_STATE_SKIP_TASKBAR, _NET_WM_STATE_STICKY, _NET_WM_STATE_TOGGLE,
_NET_WM_STRUT, _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE, _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_DESKTOP,
_NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_DIALOG, _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_DOCK,
_NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_TOOLBAR, _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_MENU,
_NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_UTILITY, _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_SPLASH


>> I also found the gtk_window_set_focus_on_map function.  This seems to
>> rely on the _NET_WM_USER_TIME EWMH.  Sawfish ignores _NET_WM_USER_TIME,
>> but it could be useful for other window managers.
>
> And this would have to be supplied by the user separately.  Or is there
> some way to get such basic information from window-managers?

For a window manager which supports it, _NET_SUPPORTED will contain
_NET_WM_USER_TIME.  But it wouldn't hurt to set _NET_WM_USER_TIME to 0,
because that should be interpreted as "disable focus-on-map".  At least
gtk_window_set_focus_on_map sets the property unconditionally.

Helmut.






  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-29 15:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <48C8C046.50203@gmx.at>
2008-08-20  7:35 ` bug#745: pop-to-buffer, frames, and input focus Helmut Eller
2008-08-20 14:50   ` martin rudalics
2008-08-20 18:42     ` Helmut Eller
2008-08-20 20:42       ` David Reitter
2008-08-20 20:56       ` martin rudalics
2008-08-21  8:07         ` Helmut Eller
2008-08-21  9:04           ` martin rudalics
2008-08-21 13:20             ` Helmut Eller
2008-08-21 20:31               ` martin rudalics
2008-08-22 14:27                 ` Helmut Eller
2008-08-22 16:39                   ` martin rudalics
2008-08-23  8:55                     ` Helmut Eller
2008-08-23 12:05                       ` martin rudalics
2008-08-24 13:14                         ` Helmut Eller
2008-08-25 13:45                           ` martin rudalics
2008-08-26 21:45                             ` Helmut Eller
2008-08-27  8:12                               ` martin rudalics
2008-08-27 12:54                                 ` Helmut Eller
2008-08-28 11:46                                   ` martin rudalics
2008-08-28 16:47                                     ` Helmut Eller
2008-08-28 21:26                                       ` martin rudalics
2008-08-29  7:39                                         ` Helmut Eller
2008-08-29  9:26                                           ` martin rudalics
2008-08-29 15:02                                             ` Helmut Eller [this message]
2008-08-30  8:15                                               ` martin rudalics
2008-08-30 11:06                                                 ` Helmut Eller
2008-08-30 13:42                                                   ` martin rudalics
2008-08-31  8:55                                                     ` Helmut Eller
2008-09-06 11:56                                                       ` martin rudalics
2008-09-09  6:24                                                         ` Helmut Eller
2008-09-11  7:05   ` bug#745: marked as done (pop-to-buffer, frames, and input focus) Emacs bug Tracking System

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