From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Third Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#5206: OPTION key combinations using international keyboards in the NEXTSTEP versions of Emacs don't work Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2016 21:50:37 +0100 Message-ID: References: <88AF87D3-853F-44C6-9737-E654DD4C54F1@online.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1459889478 1807 80.91.229.3 (5 Apr 2016 20:51:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 20:51:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 5206@debbugs.gnu.org To: Anders Bolt-Evensen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 05 22:51:08 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1anXwJ-0007M4-7r for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2016 22:51:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39247 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1anXwI-0006nz-PG for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Tue, 05 Apr 2016 13:50:38 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from breton.local ([2001:8b0:3f8:8129:25e4:bde8:8b05:7289]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 138sm21424571wmf.13.2016.04.05.13.50.38 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 05 Apr 2016 13:50:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <88AF87D3-853F-44C6-9737-E654DD4C54F1@online.no> (Anders Bolt-Evensen's message of "Sun, 13 Dec 2009 11:18:38 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.92 (darwin) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:116096 Archived-At: Anders Bolt-Evensen writes: > Hey! > > I've been working on Emacs for some time now, and recently I started using the Mac OS X user interface instead of the X windowing system. > But there is one problem: I'm using a Norwegian keyboard, and to use characters like |, [, ], {, } and a few other characters I need to use either the OPTION or SHIFT+OPTION keys. In the NEXTSTEP version of Emacs the OPTION key is defined as the meta key. > > OPTION+7 = | > OPTION+8 = [ > OPTION+9 = ] > SHIFT+OPTION+7 = \ > SHIFT+OPTION+8 = { > SHIFT+OPTION+9 = } > > When I press the OPTION+7 keys, the vertical bar should appear as seen > in the list above, but insted nothing happens until I press an other > key, in this case I used the A key, and "aaaaaaa" appears. When I > press the SHIFT+OPTION+7 keys, the word "system" appears. This problem > only applies to the NEXTSTEP version - the terminal and X window > versions work as they should. Hi, one way round this is to unset the right-option key in Emacs so left-option works as meta and right-option will behave as "normal": (setq ns-right-alternate-modifier (quote none)) If you don't like that, there are all sorts of other ways you could rebind keys. Emacs has behaved this way for a long time so I get the feeling it's unlikely the default behaviour is going to be changed. I don't know what a good alternate default would be as not having a meta key makes Emacs kind of hard to use and I don't consider the escape key a decent alternative. Does anyone else have an opinion? Is this a non-bug? -- Alan Third