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[79.227.166.26]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ffacd0b85a97d-382371a5646sm6054483f8f.0.2024.11.17.20.06.06 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sun, 17 Nov 2024 20:06:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Konstantin Kharlamov's message of "Sun, 17 Nov 2024 19:04:42 +0300") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:295579 Archived-At: Konstantin Kharlamov writes: > Even Gerd in this discussion forgot about this peculiarity =E2=80=94 and > Gerd unlike me is a regular Emacs developer. Even worse, even worse: He wrote that stuff! But I think I'll excuse him because that was 25 years ago, and he took a 20 year break from Emacs, after stepping down, and he's old of course :-). Seriously, maybe knowing a bit of history helps understand the current situation wrt .elc files? One wouldn't believe it nowadays, but they were originally in version control, i.e. RCS, and later CVS. I didn't want that in the public CVS repo we set up for Emacs 21, so I added the ability to bootstrap and removed the .elc files from CVS. COMPILE_FIRST and so on are part of the bootstrapping support. Rewriting the build system to follow some standard (if it existed back then, which I don't remember), was not important to me. There were so many other things to do.