unofficial mirror of bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org 
 help / color / mirror / code / Atom feed
From: "Gerd Möllmann" <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>
To: "Mattias Engdegård" <mattias.engdegard@gmail.com>
Cc: 73552@debbugs.gnu.org, eliz@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca
Subject: bug#73552: obsolete (and broken) face attribute :reverse-video
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2024 13:31:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m27causnlw.fsf@pro2.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <A9CA266B-0029-4B69-B3D4-1E5ECE0D6DEB@gmail.com> ("Mattias Engdegård"'s message of "Sun, 29 Sep 2024 12:49:44 +0200")

Mattias Engdegård <mattias.engdegard@gmail.com> writes:

> The face attribute keyword :reverse-video has been broken in defface
> for a long time, and it's not used very much, so I added a compiler
> warning and a notice to NEWS.
>
> This keyword along with :bold and :italic have been obsolete for
> longer than that and aren't even mentioned in any documentation (on
> purpose) but in the internal face-and-display machinery they still
> partly work.
>
> I'm not quite sure why :reverse-video doesn't work in defface. Demo, in *scratch*:
>
>   (defface myface '((t :reverse-video t)) "my face")
>
>   (insert (propertize "bon bon" 'font-lock-face 'myface) ?\n)
>   => bon bon  ; not inverted
>
>   (insert (propertize "non non" 'font-lock-face '(:reverse-video t)) ?\n)
>   => non non  ; inverted
>
> I first blamed a simple 14 years old mistake in `custom-fix-face-spec`
> but fixing that doesn't help, not sure why. But it means that we
> probably don't need to fix it, and indeed there are precious few
> packages using :reverse-video. One is make-mode.el; outside Emacs, I
> only found one (yaml-mode).
>
> While :bold and :italic are obsolete as well, they are used a lot more
> (and actually seem to work) so I'm not warning about them now.
>
> To summarise:
> - Should we fix `custom-fix-face-spec`? Maybe, or just stop pretending that it handles :reverse-video.
> - Should we bother to fix what other mechanism preventing :reverse-video from working? Probably no.
> - Should we remove :reverse-video from the display machinery? Yes, but maybe not now?
> - Should we remove :bold and :italic? Yes, but definitely not now.

FWIW I'm pretty sure that I added :italic, :bold, :reverse-video to what
later became Emacs 21 only for backwards compatibility with the old
pre-21 face implementation. At least on the surface, because 21 faces
work completely differently. (I also seem to remeber that reverse-video
was a synonym for inverse-video in the old code, maybe even
undocumented. Too lazy to look that up ATM, though :-).)





  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-29 11:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-29 10:49 bug#73552: obsolete (and broken) face attribute :reverse-video Mattias Engdegård
2024-09-29 11:31 ` Gerd Möllmann [this message]
2024-09-29 12:35   ` Mattias Engdegård
2024-09-29 12:55     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-29 13:41       ` Mattias Engdegård
2024-09-29 13:49         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-29 13:55 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-09-29 16:22   ` Mattias Engdegård
2024-09-29 16:42     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-29 17:25       ` Mattias Engdegård

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

  List information: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=m27causnlw.fsf@pro2.fritz.box \
    --to=gerd.moellmann@gmail.com \
    --cc=73552@debbugs.gnu.org \
    --cc=eliz@gnu.org \
    --cc=mattias.engdegard@gmail.com \
    --cc=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this public inbox

	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git

This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for read-only IMAP folder(s) and NNTP newsgroup(s).