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Wed, 02 Sep 2020 03:45:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (James Cloos's message of "Wed, 02 Sep 2020 06:24:12 -0400") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:186924 Archived-At: >>>>> On Wed, 02 Sep 2020 06:24:12 -0400, James Cloos s= aid: >>>>> "RP" =3D=3D Robert Pluim writes: RP> I can understand that, but nobody is stepping up to e.g. make Lucid RP> work well on HiDPI screens, so it will become increasingly RP> irrelevant. James> why? James> for emacs, higher dpi mostly just means larger fonts. No it means "why can=CA=BCt I read the text in Emacs on my new HiDPI monitor, everything else adapts automatically. What do you mean I have to reconfigure Emacs to use larger fonts?" James> if images ever need scaling, that should not be hard to do in em= acs James> itself. James> gtk is horrid. (1 was ok; it only went downhill when novel got James> involved, and that trend has continued.) What alternative is there? James> and the push for hb+cxr over m17n+xft means xaw(3d) w/ cairo sho= uld James> become more and more common. I=CA=BCm not sure I see the connection there. Robert