From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Jacobson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: debian installs with years old emacs as default Date: 30 May 2002 06:29:27 +0800 Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <20020528154010.GA31580@olemiss.edu> Reply-To: kindly_remove_this_part_first_jidanni@ms46.hinet.net NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1022763771 20340 127.0.0.1 (30 May 2002 13:02:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 13:02:51 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17DPZr-0005Hx-00 for ; Thu, 30 May 2002 15:02:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17DPab-0008FU-00; Thu, 30 May 2002 09:03:37 -0400 Original-Received: from chx400.switch.ch ([130.59.10.2]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17DPYJ-00088M-00 for ; Thu, 30 May 2002 09:01:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.fu-berlin.de ([160.45.11.165]) by chx400.switch.ch with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 17DPYH-0004XO-00 for gnu-emacs-bug@moderators.isc.org; Thu, 30 May 2002 15:01:13 +0200 Original-Received: by mail.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.2.0.98) from Curry.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (160.45.10.36) with esmtp id ; Thu, 30 May 2002 15:01:12 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: by Curry.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (Smail3.2.0.98) from news.fu-berlin.de with bsmtp id ; Thu, 30 May 2002 15:01:09 +0200 (MEST) Original-To: gnu-emacs-bug@moderators.isc.org Original-Path: 61-227-44-85.hinet-ip.hinet.NET!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.bug Original-Lines: 22 X-Orig-NNTP-Posting-Host: 61-227-44-85.hinet-ip.hinet.net (61.227.44.85) X-Orig-X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1022763669 32332709 61.227.44.85 (16 [99749]) X-Orig-Path: localhost.localdomain!nobody User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1 Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:1694 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs:1694 >> I got debian woody and emacs is 20.7. I thought debian was supposed >> to real advanced or something, but why old emacs? Chris> Um... install the emacs21 package instead of emacs20. Problem solved. 1. The user pops in the debian install CD's, answers the questions e.g., in tasksel, and ends up with years old emacs. Is this the case with all the other packages on debian, or just emacs? 2. I mean we read that even "RMS uses debian on his laptop" or something, so we would think that popping in those debian CD's would get us "in with the in club" in a hurry, and not some kind of historical state. I mean what's the point of a "linux distribution" if one must need extra sensory perception to get any reasonably recent versions of software. Yes, we are not as preceptive as you might think, we just answer what it says on install screens. 3. Therefore, make the default emacs to be installed for a new debian user the new one not the old one. -- http://jidanni.org/ Taiwan(04)25854780