From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nikolaj Schumacher Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#812: frame-local-variable documentation Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:23:21 +0200 Message-ID: Reply-To: Nikolaj Schumacher , 812@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1219970254 6243 80.91.229.12 (29 Aug 2008 00:37:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:37:34 +0000 (UTC) To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 29 02:38:28 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KYs0Q-0003pg-0S for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 02:38:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49015 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KYrzR-0006nL-21 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:37:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KYpL6-0004sM-Ix for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:47:36 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KYpL5-0004rH-3l for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:47:36 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59794 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KYpL4-0004r4-TH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:47:34 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:47694) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KYpL3-00072M-J1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:47:34 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m7SLlTA5030534; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:47:29 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m7SLU4bk024565; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:30:04 -0700 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Nikolaj Schumacher Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:30:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 812 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.121995861122624 (code B ref -1); Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:30:04 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 28 Aug 2008 21:23:31 +0000 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m7SLNQPK022618 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:23:28 -0700 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KYoxh-0008Lh-IX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:23:25 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KYoxg-0008LI-Mv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:23:24 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=41332 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KYoxg-0008L7-9J for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:23:24 -0400 Original-Received: from dd18200.kasserver.com ([85.13.138.168]:44026) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KYoxf-0006O2-JQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:23:23 -0400 Original-Received: from arwen.uni-trier.de (BAHb9d4.bah.pppool.de [77.135.185.212]) by dd18200.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E991807316A for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:23:28 +0200 (CEST) User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2.50 (darwin) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:47:36 -0400 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:37:00 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:19843 Archived-At: As far as I can tell frame-local variables have been (or are about to be) removed and currently don't work. Given that, I find the documentation slightly misleading. `modify-frame-parameters' still contains this paragraph: > The value of frame parameter FOO can also be accessed > as a frame-local binding for the variable FOO, if you have > enabled such bindings for that variable with > `make-variable-frame-local'. That should be removed, I think. `make-variable-frame-local' has this note: > This function is obsolete since 22.2; > use a frame-parameter instead. I think those two carry the notion that it's still possible to access a frame-parameter as a variable, just by using modify-frame-parameters. The explanation in the NEWS file is more clear in this regard: > They can easily be emulated. Rather than calling > `make-variable-frame-local' and accessing the variable value directly, > explicitly check for a frame-parameter But I think removing the first one should avoid any confusion. regards, Nikolaj Schumacher