From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Pluim Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#36717: 25.3; greek.el: deprecated vowel+oxia combinations should be replaced with vowel+tonos counterparts Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 20:57:16 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87zhlbaf5d.fsf@kiddo.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <20190718173252.GA3093@robertalessi.net> <20190718184700.GA4886@robertalessi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="203482"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 36717@debbugs.gnu.org To: Robert Alessi Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 18 20:58:08 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hoBbU-000qn8-0c for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Thu, 18 Jul 2019 11:57:20 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from rpluim-mac ([2a01:e34:ecfc:a860:654d:cd3a:755a:ad29]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i13sm26413732wrr.73.2019.07.18.11.57.18 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=AEAD-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 18 Jul 2019 11:57:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20190718184700.GA4886@robertalessi.net> (Robert Alessi's message of "Thu, 18 Jul 2019 20:47:00 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:163332 Archived-At: >>>>> On Thu, 18 Jul 2019 20:47:00 +0200, Robert Alessi said: Robert> On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 08:06:13PM +0200, Robert Pluim wrote: >> >>>>> On Thu, 18 Jul 2019 19:32:52 +0200, Robert Alessi said: Robert> Very well spotted. Actually, the latter is the right one=E2=80= =94that is: >> ^^^^^^ Robert> Greek Tonos, U+0384=E2=80=94while the former, Greek Oxia (U+1FF= D) belongs to Robert> the group that was deprecated. So it is the other way round: k= eep the Robert> former, and make the latter go. >> ^^^^^^ >>=20 >> Now I=CA=BCm confused :-) >>=20 >> Currently greek.el input methods insert \u1ffd, rather than >> \u0384. Which one do you want? Robert> That is not entirely true, I daresay, for I did find a couple of Robert> \u0384 in this file. Indeed, some of the methods already had a way to insert tonos. Robert> But I got confused at some point in my previous Robert> email! What I meant is: keep Greek Tonos (\u0384), and replace= Greek Robert> Oxia with Greek Tonos. But those methods that have tonos are for 'modern' greek, whereas the ones that have oxia are for classical greek, as Basil pointed out, so perhaps there=CA=BCs no need to change anything (unless there=CA=BCs an edi= ct from the Unicode people that tonos must be used even when writing classical greek). Robert