From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "John Wiegley" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23425: master branch: `message' wrongly corrupts ' to curly quote. Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 14:15:54 -0700 Message-ID: References: <7e599cf6-18c3-1633-33d5-e9f4eaa8fe6a@cs.ucla.edu> <20160502191031.GB2048@acm.fritz.box> <83a8k7kv87.fsf@gnu.org> <20160503162716.GB11330@acm.fritz.box> <831t5jkrn2.fsf@gnu.org> <20160503200330.GC11330@acm.fritz.box> <83twidj0tj.fsf@gnu.org> <20160504164849.GA31717@acm.fritz.box> <83d1p1iwls.fsf@gnu.org> <20160504180417.GB31717@acm.fritz.box> <8ac2d87c-7f8f-4370-82bc-77c7dfceb4c5@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1462399665 4230 80.91.229.3 (4 May 2016 22:07:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 22:07:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Alan Mackenzie , eggert@cs.ucla.edu, 23425@debbugs.gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 05 00:07:31 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ay4x9-0000nR-6E for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 May 2016 00:07:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50531 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ay4x5-0002VL-Cs for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 18:07:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43538) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ay4wv-0002IK-Pt for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 18:07:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ay4wk-0005hi-0b for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 18:07:12 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:54325) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ay4wj-0005fi-UP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 18:07:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ay4wg-0000vD-FM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 18:07:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 22:07:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23425 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 23425-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23425.14623996103518 (code B ref 23425); Wed, 04 May 2016 22:07:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23425) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 May 2016 22:06:50 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38429 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ay4wU-0000ub-0e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 18:06:50 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.johnwiegley.com ([208.82.103.192]:52987 helo=Hermes.local) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ay49Q-00084B-5i for 23425@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 17:16:12 -0400 Original-Received: by Hermes.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 954122415C4; Wed, 4 May 2016 14:16:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8ac2d87c-7f8f-4370-82bc-77c7dfceb4c5@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Wed, 4 May 2016 23:23:11 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/25.0.93 (darwin) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 04 May 2016 18:06:48 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:117814 Archived-At: >>>>> Dmitry Gutov writes: > For instance, if we had such an option now, Alan wouldn't have found the > presently discussed bug. It wouldn't not manifest with his setup, but it > would manifest in default Emacs configuration where quote translation is > enabled, and the majority of the users would suffer. Hmm... these good arguments are getting in the way of my tirade. Alright, I will let this go without a customization option, again. Alan, you can setq `text-quoting-style' for now in your .emacs, although doing so may get in the way of finding more bugs. Let's see what the populace says, and how many pitchforks are raised. It's quite possible we may revert this whole feature in 26, but let's get some genuine public reaction before deciding the matter. Within the Emacs developers, I now see strong votes against, some votes for (are they as strong?), but I still don't know what the World At Large is going to think. -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2