From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19603: 24.4.51; Improve emacs startup message. 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X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:98367 Archived-At: On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 07:21:02 +0100 Thierry Volpiatto wrote: TV> Now emacs packages are widely used, TV> it would be great to improve the startup message of emacs with a link TV> about how to quickly setup package.el to be usable. TV> I have regularly people complaining "It is not working" because TV> they install packages through package.el and they don't add in their TV> init file `package-initialize', or they try compiling autoload file TV> etc... I have provided a link in my Readme file to redirect to a brief TV> documentation on how to use all this, but apparently many don't read TV> this... I bring this up every 2 years or so; it's time... In Gnus and Emacs we have assistant.el, which could be used to guide the user through the necessary steps to get packages working and then go straight to `list-packages'. Maybe it could be useful here? Ted