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From: Matt Armstrong <matt@rfc20.org>
To: Mike Kupfer <mkupfer@alum.berkeley.edu>
Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, 46397@debbugs.gnu.org, craven@gmx.net,
	wohler@newt.com
Subject: bug#46397: 27.1; Cannot delete buffer pointing to a file in a path that includes a file
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2021 17:42:38 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m21rd8zxm9.fsf@matts-mbp-2016.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <16051.1613951017@alto>

Mike Kupfer <mkupfer@alum.berkeley.edu> writes:

> (Adding Bill Wohler, who has a better grasp than I about why MH-E does
> some things.)
>
> Matt Armstrong wrote:
>
>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> 
>> > I think we should audit all the callers of unlock_buffer and
>> > unlock_file, and see if signaling an error there is really the best
>> > alternative.
> [...]
>> 	* lisp/mh-e/mh-show.el (mh-clean-msg-header, mh-unvisit-file):
>>     	  hard to say, very old code...
>> 	* lisp/mh-e/mh-comp.el (mh-read-draft): ditto.
>
> I'm not sure I completely understanding the logic behind those calls to
> unlock-buffer, but I'll take a stab at it.

[...]

Thanks for those analysis Mike.  They make sense to me.


> But to Eli's question, I think a signal is fine for MH-E if the
> lockfile can't be removed for some reason.  An uncaught signal could
> leave the current buffer in an odd state, but the user can simply kill
> the buffer and retry whatever operation she had attempted.

Yes, and this bug is at least in part about the behavior of
`kill-buffer' when faced with the same issue.  That and `kill-emacs'.


> Or if the buffer has something that is worth saving, the user can
> attempt to save the buffer somewhere, perhaps a different filesystem
> (e.g., if the original filesystem went read-only due to the OS
> detecting a problem).

I think the "buffer has something worth saving" case is not a concern.

The calls to `unlock-buffer' all occur after the buffer contents have
been saved, or otherwise marked as unmodified, or, in the case of
`kill-buffer', after the user has chosen to not save a modified buffer.


> I don't understand the proposal for unlock-buffer (or something under
> it) to prompt the user.  IIUC, the proposal is for a prompt like
>
>> /tmp/x/y lock is invalid; assume unlocked? (yes or no)
>
> I assume that if the user responds with "yes", unlock-buffer returns
> and the caller is none the wiser.  If the user responds with "no",
> what happens?
>
> mike

I think under the current idea, in the case of `kill-buffer', answering
"no" from the prompt the buffer un-killed.  I think the technical
mechanism would be to either re-signal the underlying 'file-error or
signal a new 'unlock-error that contains similar information.





  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-22  1:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-09  9:47 bug#46397: 27.1; Cannot delete buffer pointing to a file in a path that includes a file Peter
2021-02-09 23:47 ` Matt Armstrong
2021-02-10  0:23   ` Matt Armstrong
2021-02-10 15:05     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-10 19:23       ` Paul Eggert
2021-02-10 19:45         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-10 22:39           ` Matt Armstrong
2021-02-12  7:43             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-12  9:36               ` Paul Eggert
2021-02-12 11:33                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-12 23:59                   ` Matt Armstrong
2021-02-13  8:07                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-11 22:14         ` Matt Armstrong
2021-02-12  2:20           ` Paul Eggert
2021-02-12  7:15             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13  1:15               ` Matt Armstrong
2021-02-13  1:26                 ` Paul Eggert
2021-02-13  8:21                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13  8:28                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-14  0:49                   ` Matt Armstrong
2021-02-14 19:22                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-14 22:16                       ` Matt Armstrong
2021-02-15 15:09                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16  0:49                           ` Matt Armstrong
2021-02-16  1:55                             ` Paul Eggert
2021-02-16 15:06                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 11:53                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-22 19:24                             ` bug#46397: [PATCH] " Matt Armstrong
2021-02-19 19:10                           ` Matt Armstrong
2021-02-19 19:23                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-19 21:46                               ` Matt Armstrong
2021-02-20  9:09                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-21  0:36                                   ` Matt Armstrong
2021-02-21 23:43                                     ` Mike Kupfer
2021-02-22  1:42                                       ` Matt Armstrong [this message]
2021-03-14 18:03                                         ` Bill Wohler
2021-03-17 23:36                                           ` Matt Armstrong
2021-02-24 17:37                                     ` Matt Armstrong
2021-02-24 18:50                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-01 16:59                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-05 22:19                                         ` Matt Armstrong
2021-03-06  9:36                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-06 23:39                                             ` Matt Armstrong
2021-03-07  2:50                                             ` Paul Eggert
2021-03-07  5:57                                               ` Matt Armstrong
2021-02-19 19:45                             ` Paul Eggert
2021-02-19 21:52                               ` Matt Armstrong
2021-03-08  2:18                               ` Matt Armstrong
2021-03-11 14:34                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-17 23:49                                   ` Matt Armstrong
2021-03-17 23:51                                   ` Matt Armstrong
2021-03-20 10:43                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-22  1:43                                       ` Matt Armstrong
2021-03-27  9:20                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-10  0:26   ` Matt Armstrong

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