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Thu, 20 Jan 2022 13:20:41 +0000 Original-Received: by kubenode501.mail-prod1.omega.ir2.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 316b68883077c6119d7467606e28da9e; Thu, 20 Jan 2022 13:20:35 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Alan Third's message of "Thu, 20 Jan 2022 11:11:50 +0000") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.19615 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:224688 Archived-At: Alan Third writes: > On 20 January 2022 10:16:01 GMT, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: >>Alan Third writes: >> >>> I was under the impression that the help text appears in a tooltip. We >>> had a recent bug report where the wrong text was sometimes appearing >>> in the tooltip, but that should be fixed now, at least on master. >>> >>> I'd be surprised if there's no tooltip at all or the tooltip is empty, >>> it's a function provided by the toolkit. >> >>Do you mean on Macos or Debian? In Macos, I'm getting no tooltips when >>using the menu. (And I'd be surprised to be getting them, really, >>because the Macos menus are separated from the Emacs frame.) > > Oh, sorry, I totally misread this and thought it was about the toolbar. > > You're right, I don't expect tooltips to appear for menu items and I'm not sure whether it's even possible to update the Emacs frame while the menus are open. The "Mac port" is able to show the help description in the echo area when you point on an item in the menu bar. It'd be interesting to see how it does it and if we could implement the same approach.