From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#18724: Emacs 24.4: M-x customize-group paren-showing-faces doesn't allow any editing of the faces. Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 23:01:44 +0000 (UTC) Organization: muc.de e.V. 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X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 19:03:31 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:94508 Hi, Ivan. Ivan Shmakov wrote: >>>>>> Alan Mackenzie writes: > > In Emacs 24.4, start with -Q. > > Do M-x customize-group paren-showing-faces . > > This now displays the two pertinent faces. There is, however, no > > widget by which they might be edited. > > Starting Emacs without -Q doesn't seem to help. > Works for me as of the last week?s HEAD ? the widgets appear > when I RET on the ?[Show]? buttons. Ah, OK. I see it now. What I saw (on a tty) was: "Show Paren Match face: [sample]" . What was actually there was "Show Show Paren Match face: [sample]" , with the first "Show", the active one, being indistiguishable from the second "Show". They really ought to have distinct faces. I fired up a GUI Emacs to see what that's like, and that's no problem at all. > -- > FSF associate member #7257 http://boycottsystemd.org/ ? 3013 B6A0 230E 334A -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).