From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Leo Liu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#10731: 24.0.93; ido-mode: C-j does not select buffer at head of list Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 12:56:53 +0800 Message-ID: References: <86sjiqndfc.fsf@googlemail.com> <87399g23z8.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1363324361 19735 80.91.229.3 (15 Mar 2013 05:12:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 05:12:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 10731@debbugs.gnu.org To: Daumantas Baltrusaitis Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 15 06:13:06 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UGMwx-0004sY-96 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 06:13:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36172 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UGMwa-0006B3-Kd for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Thu, 14 Mar 2013 21:57:03 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost ([182.48.109.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id kl4sm6718323pbc.31.2013.03.14.21.57.00 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 14 Mar 2013 21:57:02 -0700 (PDT) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACgAAAAoAgMAAADxkFD+AAAADFBMVEUvT09qWs3/pQD///+J kUVcAAAAAWJLR0QAiAUdSAAAAAlwSFlzAAALEwAACxMBAJqcGAAAAAd0SU1FB9cBBwMLOd3veKQA AACuSURBVBjTldE9CgIxEAXgB+lEyFUC2wo5ikdZ8DSypxhMY7H9VuIVwlqkGRgnm59VsHGafIQ3 CZlAtmKIRaHETgYa12lqvEsPYKf8wXHsPGfqPaUM0g9aJPKFXkmNQmSDqwzz4Fpgpz+6WAPY2z5o uPJJpu0uypcl4nyCibMLQ8lCiVjayLoQvw5LsVKQuHPRR958HZbOcVsKeepcLxpByjycGvnKmY+c MBvrtyjfe0vmuLvdq/kAAAAASUVORK5CYII= In-Reply-To: (Daumantas Baltrusaitis's message of "Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:48:53 +0000 (UTC)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (OS X 10.8.2) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:72516 Archived-At: On 2012-03-14 22:48 +0800, Daumantas Baltrusaitis wrote: > While that is true, I believe that more relevant analogy is C-x b > C-f with ido-mode disabled. It opens the buffer at head of > list (default buffer). > > I generally expect C-j to be interchangeable with in most > contexts since j is right under my index finger, thus easier to > press than . Especially in tasks used as often as > switching/killing buffers. > > I guess that is the main point. Even with C-x C-f C-j example C-j > behaves like and that is the expected behavior. > > Daumantas C-j is the key to let you get away from choosing a default item. It is necessary (the only way) in a few cases. If you remap C-j to RET in ido mode you will realise why you need it. The subtle but clear difference between C-j and RET looks like a conscious decision from Kim. I'll let the maintainer decide whether to close this bug. Leo