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[150.46.48.154]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u186sm1511481pfu.82.2017.08.03.23.39.16 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 03 Aug 2017 23:39:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Original-From: Tak Kunihiro In-Reply-To: <83h8xnyi2t.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 04 Aug 2017 09:15:22 +0300") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:135321 Archived-At: >> I have a similar wish. >> >> Without revision of engine I think you can (1) restore point, (2) >> preserve region, and (3) extend region. > > How is this different from mark-related features, starting with "C-x C-x"? "C-x C-x" requires mark. Also "C-x C-x" changes scope in buffer.