From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Leo Liu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16038: 24.3; latest change to with-help-window makes temp-buffer-browse useless Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 22:34:36 +0800 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1386081382 12199 80.91.229.3 (3 Dec 2013 14:36:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 14:36:22 +0000 (UTC) To: 16038@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 03 15:36:27 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Vnr5O-0002MB-0J for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 15:36:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42724 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vnr5N-0000sW-KL for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 09:36:25 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43042) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vnr5B-0000gc-VU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 09:36:22 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vnr53-00046z-HH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 09:36:13 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:41684) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vnr53-00046v-En for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 09:36:05 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vnr52-0006tw-4E; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 09:36:04 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Leo Liu Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: rudalics@gmx.at, bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 14:36:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 16038 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-Xcc: martin rudalics Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.138608133226483 (code B ref -1); Tue, 03 Dec 2013 14:36:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Dec 2013 14:35:32 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55702 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vnr4U-0006t2-Lr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 09:35:31 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:41058) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vnr4K-0006sf-7C for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 09:35:21 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vnr46-0003tL-AC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 09:35:14 -0500 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:59245) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vnr46-0003sB-6u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 09:35:06 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42714) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vnr3x-0007u3-My for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 09:35:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vnr3p-0003cX-8j for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 09:34:57 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pd0-x22b.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c02::22b]:48679) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vnr3o-0003bn-Ow for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 09:34:48 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pd0-f171.google.com with SMTP id z10so20173049pdj.30 for ; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 06:34:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=woivPQpHCgPKbkmFNhMUj5i5Xe1M5zaCaSsyMHOG7BI=; b=LAZU3mW+L301Ci4IpafUZW2fDw5z0yYQjHWX4Hi14o2QjMR9ny9B+BFhdbhbMcEdbU NCQNoR+Ljz5xb9hccxYgTc9g7JsuMESk1zpyGzf3ApZHKdOpvRq/3v/yHF6uKrytXgHv VNuhg+ztnd5cyN+ZHpJikQY88IqD3oNWN5qwHHGIG6aabv9YIIFxr3K6CS63lPLjOBl7 sOIErAVtT4gaCzP1D76I5CIl1J2TL+lj5M1qLhqqE3XMtUWNavEtN/oS0ZhgLLYvDWRf 70eVwkye7rzi0YZp8GM0Z48KBIvEWLdm/a5GHoltCd+YTGAMxiTehxVaUv0gMt+NncYl j+7A== X-Received: by 10.68.139.100 with SMTP id qx4mr11168180pbb.144.1386081284715; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 06:34:44 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost ([123.119.93.169]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id jk16sm20333912pbb.34.2013.12.03.06.34.42 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 03 Dec 2013 06:34:44 -0800 (PST) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:81312 Archived-At: with-help-window has been changed to use with-temp-buffer-window. temp-buffer-window-show has special treatment for temp-buffer-resize-mode but not temp-buffer-browse-mode (in GNU ELPA). There seems to be a significant overlap between with-temp-buffer-window and with-output-to-temp-buffer. I wonder if there is a better design of with-temp-buffer-window that re-use/blend with with-output-to-temp-buffer. I also find the similar hooks (setup/show hooks) between these macros confusing. Maybe what need isn't a macro close to with-output-to-temp-buffer but one (e.g with-temp-window) close to with-temp-buffer. Thank you for considering these points, Leo