From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Leo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9118: 23.3.50; Don't seed the RNG in message-unique-id Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 23:14:54 +0800 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1311091817 27434 80.91.229.12 (19 Jul 2011 16:10:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 16:10:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 9118@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 19 18:10:13 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QjCs8-0003YV-Fy for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 18:10:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56507 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QjCs6-00068x-KH for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 12:10:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:50238) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QjC1l-0007vi-ME for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:16:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QjC1k-00052b-F3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:16:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:38379) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QjC1k-00052W-03 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:16:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QjC1h-0007ZV-Nd; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:16:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Leo Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 15:16:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9118 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 9118-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9118.131108852127797 (code B ref 9118); Tue, 19 Jul 2011 15:16:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 9118) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jul 2011 15:15:21 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QjC12-0007E2-NM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:15:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-iw0-f172.google.com ([209.85.214.172]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QjC10-00071f-A0 for 9118@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:15:19 -0400 Original-Received: by iwn39 with SMTP id 39so3927149iwn.3 for <9118@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 08:15:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=cshim+8guAL/7Puz8lMO0DvXN5BAkeul0y7vXe9RiZ4=; b=sc/chYWNVdUHdhMnMtuzn/UWniF/4f8wqxgpgyhO3/I98SR1jZCXcWuTahA5P7eLej 9w1wBjaKDEAk0WmiiOhL8MQiA7rzWTyBS6ji6SXpiEL1aSxPJoGGOw9hkVRsf/yEYOH1 Xg2sdM5bqtUiHEuuwBT8Icp52KOp/4DGwVoaI= Original-Received: by 10.231.63.70 with SMTP id a6mr7272738ibi.20.1311088512476; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 08:15:12 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost ([114.247.10.72]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f13sm2881352ibe.10.2011.07.19.08.15.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 19 Jul 2011 08:15:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Tue, 19 Jul 2011 16:57:27 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3.50 (Mac OS X 10.6.8) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:16:01 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:49440 Archived-At: On 2011-07-19 22:57 +0800, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Unfortunately, Emacs doesn't seed itself on startup, so (random x) will > return the same thing every time you start Emacs. > > So I don't think changing this is appropriate at this time. But you can arrange to seed it once when that file is loaded. No need to seed it every time. BTW, (random t) produces no random numbers. (loop repeat 5 collect (random t)) => (2265815277832325116 2265815277832325116 2265815277832325116 2265815277832325116 2265815277832325116) Leo