* bug#74833: 31.0.50; Copy to OS clipboard doesn't work in macOS Terminal.app with xterm-mouse-mode enabled @ 2024-12-12 17:54 Filipp Gunbin 2024-12-12 18:08 ` Ship Mints 2024-12-12 19:15 ` Eli Zaretskii 0 siblings, 2 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Filipp Gunbin @ 2024-12-12 17:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 74833 macOS, Terminal.app, xterm-mouse-mode enabled emacs -nw -Q Select something with mouse, press Command-c Try to paste into another program - text is not in the clipboard Perhaps this is not new, I just tried xterm-mouse-mode for the first time, given that it's now the default in master. Trying different combinations of select-enable-clipboard and select-enable-primary did not help (that variables are all I know in this area). Thanks. In GNU Emacs 31.0.50 (build 43, aarch64-apple-darwin23.6.0, NS appkit-2487.70 Version 14.6 (Build 23G80)) of 2024-12-12 built on localhost Repository revision: 9ccd459e8452cc9e6e81e53f26bbeef20d2d5bb7 Repository branch: master System Description: macOS 14.6 Configured using: 'configure --enable-check-lisp-object-type --with-file-notification=no --with-native-compilation=no' Configured features: ACL GLIB GNUTLS LCMS2 LIBXML2 MODULES NS PDUMPER PNG RSVG SQLITE3 THREADS TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS WEBP XIM ZLIB ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* bug#74833: 31.0.50; Copy to OS clipboard doesn't work in macOS Terminal.app with xterm-mouse-mode enabled 2024-12-12 17:54 bug#74833: 31.0.50; Copy to OS clipboard doesn't work in macOS Terminal.app with xterm-mouse-mode enabled Filipp Gunbin @ 2024-12-12 18:08 ` Ship Mints 2024-12-12 18:18 ` Filipp Gunbin 2024-12-12 19:15 ` Eli Zaretskii 1 sibling, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Ship Mints @ 2024-12-12 18:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 74833 [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1275 bytes --] You need something like https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/xclip.html to assist connecting macOS terminal Emacs to the system pasteboard/clipboard. On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 12:56 PM Filipp Gunbin <fgunbin@fastmail.fm> wrote: > macOS, Terminal.app, xterm-mouse-mode enabled > emacs -nw -Q > Select something with mouse, press Command-c > Try to paste into another program - text is not in the clipboard > > Perhaps this is not new, I just tried xterm-mouse-mode for the first > time, given that it's now the default in master. > > Trying different combinations of select-enable-clipboard and > select-enable-primary did not help (that variables are all I know in > this area). > > Thanks. > > > In GNU Emacs 31.0.50 (build 43, aarch64-apple-darwin23.6.0, NS > appkit-2487.70 Version 14.6 (Build 23G80)) of 2024-12-12 built on > localhost > Repository revision: 9ccd459e8452cc9e6e81e53f26bbeef20d2d5bb7 > Repository branch: master > System Description: macOS 14.6 > > Configured using: > 'configure --enable-check-lisp-object-type --with-file-notification=no > --with-native-compilation=no' > > Configured features: > ACL GLIB GNUTLS LCMS2 LIBXML2 MODULES NS PDUMPER PNG RSVG SQLITE3 > THREADS TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS WEBP XIM ZLIB > > > > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1778 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* bug#74833: 31.0.50; Copy to OS clipboard doesn't work in macOS Terminal.app with xterm-mouse-mode enabled 2024-12-12 18:08 ` Ship Mints @ 2024-12-12 18:18 ` Filipp Gunbin 2024-12-12 18:20 ` Ship Mints 0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Filipp Gunbin @ 2024-12-12 18:18 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ship Mints; +Cc: 74833 On 12/12/2024 13:08 -0500, Ship Mints wrote: > You need something like https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/xclip.html to assist > connecting macOS terminal Emacs to the system pasteboard/clipboard. Thanks, BTW paste with Command-V works, it's just copy that doesn't work. Probably I'll disable xterm-mouse-mode anyway, but it would be nice to have this resolved in Emacs. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* bug#74833: 31.0.50; Copy to OS clipboard doesn't work in macOS Terminal.app with xterm-mouse-mode enabled 2024-12-12 18:18 ` Filipp Gunbin @ 2024-12-12 18:20 ` Ship Mints 0 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Ship Mints @ 2024-12-12 18:20 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Filipp Gunbin; +Cc: 74833 [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 702 bytes --] I think that's because Terminal.app is providing paste, not Emacs. If you use Emacs commands to put text into the kill-ring, it has to make it from there into the pasteboard/clipboard and that's what xclip does for you. On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 1:18 PM Filipp Gunbin <fgunbin@fastmail.fm> wrote: > On 12/12/2024 13:08 -0500, Ship Mints wrote: > > > You need something like https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/xclip.html to > assist > > connecting macOS terminal Emacs to the system pasteboard/clipboard. > > Thanks, BTW paste with Command-V works, it's just copy that doesn't > work. Probably I'll disable xterm-mouse-mode anyway, but it would be > nice to have this resolved in Emacs. > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1187 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* bug#74833: 31.0.50; Copy to OS clipboard doesn't work in macOS Terminal.app with xterm-mouse-mode enabled 2024-12-12 17:54 bug#74833: 31.0.50; Copy to OS clipboard doesn't work in macOS Terminal.app with xterm-mouse-mode enabled Filipp Gunbin 2024-12-12 18:08 ` Ship Mints @ 2024-12-12 19:15 ` Eli Zaretskii 2024-12-12 19:18 ` Ship Mints 2024-12-12 19:55 ` Gerd Möllmann 1 sibling, 2 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2024-12-12 19:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Filipp Gunbin; +Cc: 74833 > From: Filipp Gunbin <fgunbin@fastmail.fm> > Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2024 20:54:53 +0300 > > macOS, Terminal.app, xterm-mouse-mode enabled > emacs -nw -Q > Select something with mouse, press Command-c > Try to paste into another program - text is not in the clipboard > > Perhaps this is not new, I just tried xterm-mouse-mode for the first > time, given that it's now the default in master. > > Trying different combinations of select-enable-clipboard and > select-enable-primary did not help (that variables are all I know in > this area). Does the macOS Terminal.app support the xterm mouse protocol? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* bug#74833: 31.0.50; Copy to OS clipboard doesn't work in macOS Terminal.app with xterm-mouse-mode enabled 2024-12-12 19:15 ` Eli Zaretskii @ 2024-12-12 19:18 ` Ship Mints 2024-12-12 19:32 ` Eli Zaretskii 2024-12-12 19:55 ` Gerd Möllmann 1 sibling, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Ship Mints @ 2024-12-12 19:18 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 74833, Filipp Gunbin [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 892 bytes --] It supports a subset of mouse behavior via this user setting: https://support.apple.com/guide/terminal/turn-on-mouse-reporting-trmlc69728a5/2.12/mac/11.0 On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 2:16 PM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote: > > From: Filipp Gunbin <fgunbin@fastmail.fm> > > Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2024 20:54:53 +0300 > > > > macOS, Terminal.app, xterm-mouse-mode enabled > > emacs -nw -Q > > Select something with mouse, press Command-c > > Try to paste into another program - text is not in the clipboard > > > > Perhaps this is not new, I just tried xterm-mouse-mode for the first > > time, given that it's now the default in master. > > > > Trying different combinations of select-enable-clipboard and > > select-enable-primary did not help (that variables are all I know in > > this area). > > Does the macOS Terminal.app support the xterm mouse protocol? > > > > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1628 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* bug#74833: 31.0.50; Copy to OS clipboard doesn't work in macOS Terminal.app with xterm-mouse-mode enabled 2024-12-12 19:18 ` Ship Mints @ 2024-12-12 19:32 ` Eli Zaretskii 2024-12-12 20:07 ` Gerd Möllmann 2024-12-12 20:31 ` Ship Mints 0 siblings, 2 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2024-12-12 19:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ship Mints; +Cc: 74833, fgunbin > From: Ship Mints <shipmints@gmail.com> > Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2024 14:18:47 -0500 > Cc: Filipp Gunbin <fgunbin@fastmail.fm>, 74833@debbugs.gnu.org > > It supports a subset of mouse behavior via this user setting: > > https://support.apple.com/guide/terminal/turn-on-mouse-reporting-trmlc69728a5/2.12/mac/11.0 That doesn't tell enough. xterm.el and xterm-mouse assume full support for the xterm protocols, so partial support could well explain why things don't work. In general, I don't recommend turn on xterm features on terminals other than xterm, unless they are faithful emulations of xterm. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* bug#74833: 31.0.50; Copy to OS clipboard doesn't work in macOS Terminal.app with xterm-mouse-mode enabled 2024-12-12 19:32 ` Eli Zaretskii @ 2024-12-12 20:07 ` Gerd Möllmann 2024-12-12 20:31 ` Ship Mints 1 sibling, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Gerd Möllmann @ 2024-12-12 20:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 74833, fgunbin, Ship Mints Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes: >> From: Ship Mints <shipmints@gmail.com> >> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2024 14:18:47 -0500 >> Cc: Filipp Gunbin <fgunbin@fastmail.fm>, 74833@debbugs.gnu.org >> >> It supports a subset of mouse behavior via this user setting: >> >> https://support.apple.com/guide/terminal/turn-on-mouse-reporting-trmlc69728a5/2.12/mac/11.0 > > That doesn't tell enough. xterm.el and xterm-mouse assume full > support for the xterm protocols, so partial support could well explain > why things don't work. > > In general, I don't recommend turn on xterm features on terminals > other than xterm, unless they are faithful emulations of xterm. There is, for some reason, a checkbox in Terminal.app Settings dialog with which one can make Terminal.app not send xterm mouse escape sequences. If it's off when Emacs runs it doesn't get informed about mouse clicks and so on. So nothing happens. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* bug#74833: 31.0.50; Copy to OS clipboard doesn't work in macOS Terminal.app with xterm-mouse-mode enabled 2024-12-12 19:32 ` Eli Zaretskii 2024-12-12 20:07 ` Gerd Möllmann @ 2024-12-12 20:31 ` Ship Mints 2024-12-13 7:21 ` Eli Zaretskii 1 sibling, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Ship Mints @ 2024-12-12 20:31 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 74833, fgunbin [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 986 bytes --] I have xterm-mouse-mode enabled when in tty mode on macOS and it does work for clicking/selecting but this is independent of integrating the kill ring with the pasteboard. I am unaware of how to test the completeness of the xterm mouse protocol support, however. On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 2:32 PM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote: > > From: Ship Mints <shipmints@gmail.com> > > Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2024 14:18:47 -0500 > > Cc: Filipp Gunbin <fgunbin@fastmail.fm>, 74833@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > It supports a subset of mouse behavior via this user setting: > > > > > https://support.apple.com/guide/terminal/turn-on-mouse-reporting-trmlc69728a5/2.12/mac/11.0 > > That doesn't tell enough. xterm.el and xterm-mouse assume full > support for the xterm protocols, so partial support could well explain > why things don't work. > > In general, I don't recommend turn on xterm features on terminals > other than xterm, unless they are faithful emulations of xterm. > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1721 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* bug#74833: 31.0.50; Copy to OS clipboard doesn't work in macOS Terminal.app with xterm-mouse-mode enabled 2024-12-12 20:31 ` Ship Mints @ 2024-12-13 7:21 ` Eli Zaretskii 2024-12-13 14:46 ` Ship Mints 2024-12-13 16:35 ` Filipp Gunbin 0 siblings, 2 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2024-12-13 7:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ship Mints; +Cc: 74833, fgunbin > From: Ship Mints <shipmints@gmail.com> > Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2024 15:31:00 -0500 > Cc: fgunbin@fastmail.fm, 74833@debbugs.gnu.org > > I have xterm-mouse-mode enabled when in tty mode on macOS and it does work for clicking/selecting but > this is independent of integrating the kill ring with the pasteboard. I am unaware of how to test the > completeness of the xterm mouse protocol support, however. So why is this an Emacs bug? It sounds like the OP expects something to happen which shouldn't, because the xterm protocol for selections and the clipboard are not supported by Terminal.app? In that case, this could be at best a feature request, not a bug. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* bug#74833: 31.0.50; Copy to OS clipboard doesn't work in macOS Terminal.app with xterm-mouse-mode enabled 2024-12-13 7:21 ` Eli Zaretskii @ 2024-12-13 14:46 ` Ship Mints 2024-12-13 16:35 ` Filipp Gunbin 1 sibling, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Ship Mints @ 2024-12-13 14:46 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 74833, fgunbin [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 969 bytes --] I agree. I think OP was expressing surprise at features not working "out of the box." I suppose macOS terminal xmouse and kill-ring pasteboard integration deserve a mention in PROBLEMS. On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 2:21 AM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote: > > From: Ship Mints <shipmints@gmail.com> > > Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2024 15:31:00 -0500 > > Cc: fgunbin@fastmail.fm, 74833@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > I have xterm-mouse-mode enabled when in tty mode on macOS and it does > work for clicking/selecting but > > this is independent of integrating the kill ring with the pasteboard. I > am unaware of how to test the > > completeness of the xterm mouse protocol support, however. > > So why is this an Emacs bug? It sounds like the OP expects something > to happen which shouldn't, because the xterm protocol for selections > and the clipboard are not supported by Terminal.app? In that case, > this could be at best a feature request, not a bug. > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1553 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* bug#74833: 31.0.50; Copy to OS clipboard doesn't work in macOS Terminal.app with xterm-mouse-mode enabled 2024-12-13 7:21 ` Eli Zaretskii 2024-12-13 14:46 ` Ship Mints @ 2024-12-13 16:35 ` Filipp Gunbin 2024-12-13 16:42 ` Ship Mints 2024-12-13 16:49 ` Eli Zaretskii 1 sibling, 2 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Filipp Gunbin @ 2024-12-13 16:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 74833, Ship Mints On 13/12/2024 09:21 +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Ship Mints <shipmints@gmail.com> >> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2024 15:31:00 -0500 >> Cc: fgunbin@fastmail.fm, 74833@debbugs.gnu.org >> >> I have xterm-mouse-mode enabled when in tty mode on macOS and it does work for clicking/selecting but >> this is independent of integrating the kill ring with the pasteboard. I am unaware of how to test the >> completeness of the xterm mouse protocol support, however. > > So why is this an Emacs bug? It sounds like the OP expects something > to happen which shouldn't, because the xterm protocol for selections > and the clipboard are not supported by Terminal.app? In that case, > this could be at best a feature request, not a bug. I'll try to explain differently. Without xterm-mouse-mode you can copy/paste from/into Terminal.app window, looks like Terminal.app gives this ability on its own. This is not integration with Emacs kill ring, no. Emacs cursor does not react to mouse clicks, and selection happens with OS mouse pointer. Paste works rather slow (bad idea to paste large chunks of text), but tolerable. Now, yesterday my daily master build got me xterm-mouse-mode enabled, so I did some testing just out of curiosity. Most of the things work, including clicking and selection. However, Command-C now just doesn't copy text to OS clipboard. And it's non-obvious that you should disable xterm-mouse-mode to be able to copy. That's why I filed this bug - because previous behavior was not ideal but working, and now only paste works. Maybe we should just avoid enabling xterm-mouse-mode in Terminal.app. Maybe functionality of xclip should be in core. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* bug#74833: 31.0.50; Copy to OS clipboard doesn't work in macOS Terminal.app with xterm-mouse-mode enabled 2024-12-13 16:35 ` Filipp Gunbin @ 2024-12-13 16:42 ` Ship Mints 2024-12-13 16:52 ` Ship Mints 2024-12-13 16:49 ` Eli Zaretskii 1 sibling, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Ship Mints @ 2024-12-13 16:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Filipp Gunbin; +Cc: Eli Zaretskii, 74833 [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2554 bytes --] What you describe is normal behavior, even if it appears confusing. It's an "impedance mismatch" between terminal.app and being in a "curses" window. Terminal doesn't "see" selected text and hence Command-C is disabled. This is the opposite for a basic shell where terminal sees the text because it controls selection. You can see this by pulling down the Edit menu and seeing Copy grayed out. As far as how xterm-mouse-mode interferes with Command-C I'd have to disable it myself and see what's going on. Not sure how much value that adds, though. If you enable xclip, you'll get what you want being inside Emacs, after all, using M-w gets your selected text copied to the pasteboard. On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 11:35 AM Filipp Gunbin <fgunbin@fastmail.fm> wrote: > On 13/12/2024 09:21 +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > >> From: Ship Mints <shipmints@gmail.com> > >> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2024 15:31:00 -0500 > >> Cc: fgunbin@fastmail.fm, 74833@debbugs.gnu.org > >> > >> I have xterm-mouse-mode enabled when in tty mode on macOS and it does > work for clicking/selecting but > >> this is independent of integrating the kill ring with the pasteboard. I > am unaware of how to test the > >> completeness of the xterm mouse protocol support, however. > > > > So why is this an Emacs bug? It sounds like the OP expects something > > to happen which shouldn't, because the xterm protocol for selections > > and the clipboard are not supported by Terminal.app? In that case, > > this could be at best a feature request, not a bug. > > I'll try to explain differently. > > Without xterm-mouse-mode you can copy/paste from/into Terminal.app > window, looks like Terminal.app gives this ability on its own. This is > not integration with Emacs kill ring, no. Emacs cursor does not react > to mouse clicks, and selection happens with OS mouse pointer. Paste > works rather slow (bad idea to paste large chunks of text), but > tolerable. > > Now, yesterday my daily master build got me xterm-mouse-mode enabled, so > I did some testing just out of curiosity. Most of the things work, > including clicking and selection. However, Command-C now just doesn't > copy text to OS clipboard. And it's non-obvious that you should disable > xterm-mouse-mode to be able to copy. > > That's why I filed this bug - because previous behavior was not ideal > but working, and now only paste works. > > Maybe we should just avoid enabling xterm-mouse-mode in Terminal.app. > Maybe functionality of xclip should be in core. > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 3323 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* bug#74833: 31.0.50; Copy to OS clipboard doesn't work in macOS Terminal.app with xterm-mouse-mode enabled 2024-12-13 16:42 ` Ship Mints @ 2024-12-13 16:52 ` Ship Mints 0 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Ship Mints @ 2024-12-13 16:52 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Filipp Gunbin; +Cc: Eli Zaretskii, 74833 [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 3165 bytes --] Try experimenting with alternative terminals such as https://wezfurlong.org/wezterm/ which I've used and where I remap all of the keys to pass through to Emacs vs. letting the terminal application abscond with functions like Command-C. I can share my wezterm configuration off line if you're interested. I still remain mostly GUI on macOS but occasionally use the terminal, and especially useful for running Emacs via ssh on a remote computer (vs. tramp). On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 11:42 AM Ship Mints <shipmints@gmail.com> wrote: > What you describe is normal behavior, even if it appears confusing. It's > an "impedance mismatch" between terminal.app and being in a "curses" > window. Terminal doesn't "see" selected text and hence Command-C is > disabled. This is the opposite for a basic shell where terminal sees the > text because it controls selection. You can see this by pulling down the > Edit menu and seeing Copy grayed out. As far as how xterm-mouse-mode > interferes with Command-C I'd have to disable it myself and see what's > going on. Not sure how much value that adds, though. If you enable xclip, > you'll get what you want being inside Emacs, after all, using M-w gets your > selected text copied to the pasteboard. > > On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 11:35 AM Filipp Gunbin <fgunbin@fastmail.fm> > wrote: > >> On 13/12/2024 09:21 +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> >> >> From: Ship Mints <shipmints@gmail.com> >> >> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2024 15:31:00 -0500 >> >> Cc: fgunbin@fastmail.fm, 74833@debbugs.gnu.org >> >> >> >> I have xterm-mouse-mode enabled when in tty mode on macOS and it does >> work for clicking/selecting but >> >> this is independent of integrating the kill ring with the pasteboard. >> I am unaware of how to test the >> >> completeness of the xterm mouse protocol support, however. >> > >> > So why is this an Emacs bug? It sounds like the OP expects something >> > to happen which shouldn't, because the xterm protocol for selections >> > and the clipboard are not supported by Terminal.app? In that case, >> > this could be at best a feature request, not a bug. >> >> I'll try to explain differently. >> >> Without xterm-mouse-mode you can copy/paste from/into Terminal.app >> window, looks like Terminal.app gives this ability on its own. This is >> not integration with Emacs kill ring, no. Emacs cursor does not react >> to mouse clicks, and selection happens with OS mouse pointer. Paste >> works rather slow (bad idea to paste large chunks of text), but >> tolerable. >> >> Now, yesterday my daily master build got me xterm-mouse-mode enabled, so >> I did some testing just out of curiosity. Most of the things work, >> including clicking and selection. However, Command-C now just doesn't >> copy text to OS clipboard. And it's non-obvious that you should disable >> xterm-mouse-mode to be able to copy. >> >> That's why I filed this bug - because previous behavior was not ideal >> but working, and now only paste works. >> >> Maybe we should just avoid enabling xterm-mouse-mode in Terminal.app. >> Maybe functionality of xclip should be in core. >> > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 4287 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* bug#74833: 31.0.50; Copy to OS clipboard doesn't work in macOS Terminal.app with xterm-mouse-mode enabled 2024-12-13 16:35 ` Filipp Gunbin 2024-12-13 16:42 ` Ship Mints @ 2024-12-13 16:49 ` Eli Zaretskii 1 sibling, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2024-12-13 16:49 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Filipp Gunbin; +Cc: 74833, shipmints > From: Filipp Gunbin <fgunbin@fastmail.fm> > Cc: Ship Mints <shipmints@gmail.com>, 74833@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2024 19:35:15 +0300 > > On 13/12/2024 09:21 +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > So why is this an Emacs bug? It sounds like the OP expects something > > to happen which shouldn't, because the xterm protocol for selections > > and the clipboard are not supported by Terminal.app? In that case, > > this could be at best a feature request, not a bug. > > I'll try to explain differently. > > Without xterm-mouse-mode you can copy/paste from/into Terminal.app > window, looks like Terminal.app gives this ability on its own. This is > not integration with Emacs kill ring, no. Emacs cursor does not react > to mouse clicks, and selection happens with OS mouse pointer. Paste > works rather slow (bad idea to paste large chunks of text), but > tolerable. > > Now, yesterday my daily master build got me xterm-mouse-mode enabled, so > I did some testing just out of curiosity. Most of the things work, > including clicking and selection. However, Command-C now just doesn't > copy text to OS clipboard. And it's non-obvious that you should disable > xterm-mouse-mode to be able to copy. xterm-mouse-mode is supposed to be enabled only on terminals that load xterm.el, which means they are xterm-compatible. Does Terminal.app load xterm.el on startup? > Maybe we should just avoid enabling xterm-mouse-mode in Terminal.app. It should already be so, AFAIU. > Maybe functionality of xclip should be in core. Only if its developer submits it for inclusion. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* bug#74833: 31.0.50; Copy to OS clipboard doesn't work in macOS Terminal.app with xterm-mouse-mode enabled 2024-12-12 19:15 ` Eli Zaretskii 2024-12-12 19:18 ` Ship Mints @ 2024-12-12 19:55 ` Gerd Möllmann 1 sibling, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Gerd Möllmann @ 2024-12-12 19:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 74833, Filipp Gunbin Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes: >> From: Filipp Gunbin <fgunbin@fastmail.fm> >> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2024 20:54:53 +0300 >> >> macOS, Terminal.app, xterm-mouse-mode enabled >> emacs -nw -Q >> Select something with mouse, press Command-c >> Try to paste into another program - text is not in the clipboard >> >> Perhaps this is not new, I just tried xterm-mouse-mode for the first >> time, given that it's now the default in master. >> >> Trying different combinations of select-enable-clipboard and >> select-enable-primary did not help (that variables are all I know in >> this area). > > Does the macOS Terminal.app support the xterm mouse protocol? Yes it does. The clipboard problem is something unrelated. Terminal applications can access the macOS clipboard via command line utilities pbcopy and pbpaste. I'm using the package xclip for that, which is very simple to use ;; Clipboard support in terminal Emacs using pbcopy/pbpaste. (use-package xclip :straight t :if (not (display-graphic-p)) :config (xclip-mode 1)) Command-C, Command-V in Terminal.app are used by Terminal.app itself and not by applications running in the terminal emulator. For example, to copy shell output or paste something as shell input. I don't think Terminal.app allows altering Command-V etc. so that Emacs could use them. Other terminal emulators like iTerm allow doing that. In summary, this is not a bug. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
end of thread, other threads:[~2024-12-13 16:52 UTC | newest] Thread overview: 16+ messages (download: mbox.gz follow: Atom feed -- links below jump to the message on this page -- 2024-12-12 17:54 bug#74833: 31.0.50; Copy to OS clipboard doesn't work in macOS Terminal.app with xterm-mouse-mode enabled Filipp Gunbin 2024-12-12 18:08 ` Ship Mints 2024-12-12 18:18 ` Filipp Gunbin 2024-12-12 18:20 ` Ship Mints 2024-12-12 19:15 ` Eli Zaretskii 2024-12-12 19:18 ` Ship Mints 2024-12-12 19:32 ` Eli Zaretskii 2024-12-12 20:07 ` Gerd Möllmann 2024-12-12 20:31 ` Ship Mints 2024-12-13 7:21 ` Eli Zaretskii 2024-12-13 14:46 ` Ship Mints 2024-12-13 16:35 ` Filipp Gunbin 2024-12-13 16:42 ` Ship Mints 2024-12-13 16:52 ` Ship Mints 2024-12-13 16:49 ` Eli Zaretskii 2024-12-12 19:55 ` Gerd Möllmann
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