From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Leo Liu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16346: 24.3; electric-pair-mode close-paren issue Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2014 00:46:37 +0800 Message-ID: References: <878uuuy7g1.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1389372437 13359 80.91.229.3 (10 Jan 2014 16:47:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 16:47:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 16346@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 10 17:47:22 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W1fEu-0004kY-S5 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 17:47:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57722 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W1fEu-0000tz-HN for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Fri, 10 Jan 2014 08:46:45 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from Zeuss-MacBook.local ([123.119.85.96]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id qz9sm18687897pbc.3.2014.01.10.08.46.42 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 10 Jan 2014 08:46:44 -0800 (PST) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACgAAAAoBAMAAAB+0KVeAAAAGFBMVEUzRVhbQj4eZqO6SjnT eWpxnMetm5b6/PmidmqrAAAAAWJLR0QAiAUdSAAAAAlwSFlzAAALEwAACxMBAJqcGAAAAAd0SU1F B9cBBwMLBfKABCMAAAFoSURBVCjPtZI9a8MwEIaFoc7aYDdelQMna0Em3tsSr0XUeE2Q6a22a+v+ fk8fSSBkbDUI6dHpfe9OEvRgiD+ApqKPJgJeB6iUUXWESjUe/ig38AJrhqqvaU2nTIXbNvOQ40fe qdry4kyGoVWsfCQalXpHnJGM01wjWdYbMlXNFdsZDO69m9aqNqxEJqTEgbM5OF7wlEfIoll1Ked4 LbM5X2EdILLokEdmI8z7g5cKED0cuTC930TYhy7ZDekkXVGw/L60TguJePPxcJF48lpsSUWEA/Ju jGFNgJOXc4Hz7TmAdBeu5Ve4AEjOi2/2jfd3cAJZ+IbNrvdjgBZY01b+HTuG3cLws6BJZqVOj/pp T0OqVwx3rFq+QmJwx3loK5JSLEhDIt62+mtC2C+SrAUxEbV6C6v2BRbd6pILBKFpepKZJHgGgrKF sptSUUoczpwg2pQ7ZH1tgs0ou/917mzz6Cs2//C978cv5l07L02orIEAAAAASUVORK5CYII= In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Fri, 10 Jan 2014 09:14:07 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (OS X 10.9.1) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:83238 Archived-At: On 2014-01-10 22:14 +0800, Stefan Monnier wrote: > So you want an eldoc-subdued-mode which only gives you info in some very > restricted cases (e.g. self-insert-command) and which you can > dynamically enable/disable in specific buffers. > > Making eldoc-message-commands buffer-local would let us do that fairly easily. > >> But then when you go anywhere that you don't want to edit code (such as >> just to copy some text) eldoc also prints the arglist. > > Right. And it doesn't bother me because if I don't want to see the > eldoc info, I just don't look at the echo area. I haven't built that habit. If there is nothing to show in the status area show nothing which is what I expect. In practice, even if my eyes don't literally look at the echo area, they still grab a bit of my attention. > We obviously have different tastes/habits ;-) > >> But maybe eldoc-post-insert-mode (maybe even a new name >> eldoc-edit-mode?) can check on char changes instead? > > I don't understand what you mean by "char changes". > Ah, you mean using an after-change-function? I don't really like that. > I'm not sure what problem it is supposed to avoid. The SPC DEL thing that you mentioned and this bug. [snipped 9 lines] > But neither do you want to send such a request just because you inserted > a char. So, the problem really applies to bother cases. I find it hard > to believe that the problem would really be much more serious in one > case then in the other: either it's serious in both cases, or it's > bearable in both cases. > > > Stefan > > > PS: I think some version of eldoc-mode should be enabled by default. > It's too late for 24.4, but: for the one after. OK I don't mind taking eldoc-post-insert-mode out completely. Let me know if you want me to. It is new in 24.4 so better go now if it has to go. I can put it in my init file if I need it. Leo