From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Howard Melman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#48134: When sitting on top of a M-x item in the manual Date: Sun, 02 May 2021 10:09:12 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87fsz73t9z.8.fsf@jidanni.org> <87sg36rfrw.fsf@gmail.com> <87pmyaodji.5.fsf@jidanni.org> <87czu9li9o.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18650"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (darwin) To: 48134@debbugs.gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:aulst8xmt6dkBht7cB85bwyFQGU= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun May 02 16:10:23 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ldCnf-0004jp-3p for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 02 May 2021 16:10:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59330 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ldCne-0001Wm-7N for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 02 May 2021 10:10:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46830) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ldCnK-0001Wb-3F for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 02 May 2021 10:10:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:59696) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ldCnJ-0000YP-QH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 02 May 2021 10:10:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ldCnJ-0003Us-Kb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 02 May 2021 10:10:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <87fsz73t9z.8.fsf@jidanni.org> Resent-From: Howard Melman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 02 May 2021 14:10:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 48134 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.161996456913429 (code B ref -1); Sun, 02 May 2021 14:10:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 May 2021 14:09:29 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43008 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ldCmn-0003UX-DL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 02 May 2021 10:09:29 -0400 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:60922) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ldCml-0003UR-5V for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 02 May 2021 10:09:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46766) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ldCmh-0001UE-Oy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 02 May 2021 10:09:26 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:49092) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ldCme-00007t-M4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 02 May 2021 10:09:21 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ldCmc-0003UT-He for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 02 May 2021 16:09:18 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: 5 X-Spam_score: 0.5 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (0.5 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD=1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.248, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:205431 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > This is how Emacs works all over the place -- `M-n' should get you the > suggestion. Making all prompts tell you about this standard feature > would be less than optimal, so I don't think there's anything to fix > here, and I'm closing this bug report. I suggest making this standard feature a little more explicit in the emacs manual. I think it's only mentioned in the Minibuffer History node (in Emacs 27) which is fine, but the only index entry for this is "future history for file names". I think it would be better to also (or just) index "future history" in the previous paragraph. Also a sentence explaining how this standard feature commonly behaves would help. Something like: This is often a value at point relevant to the command such as a symbol, word, file name or color. (with perhaps a mention of thing-at-point) -- Howard