From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Howard Melman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#400: 23.0.60; C-h v should pick up lispified name in Customize Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2021 23:30:33 -0400 Message-ID: References: <007f01c8cca9$3cbbf770$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> <875z8rum4k.fsf@gnus.org> <83o8mjnf5n.fsf@gnu.org> <83fssuany1.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24852"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (darwin) To: 400@debbugs.gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:ApxpgBnRTEg4qJi18VMzvKV/B7c= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 22 05:31:11 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mdlGx-0006It-L4 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 22 Oct 2021 05:31:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34680 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mdlGw-0000Fp-2e for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 23:31:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54668) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mdlGo-0000DF-Se for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 23:31:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:47474) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mdlGo-0002z6-KH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 23:31:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mdlGo-0004mM-AS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 23:31:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <007f01c8cca9$3cbbf770$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> Resent-From: Howard Melman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2021 03:31:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 400 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.163487344718348 (code B ref -1); Fri, 22 Oct 2021 03:31:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Oct 2021 03:30:47 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59020 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mdlGZ-0004lq-CZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 23:30:47 -0400 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:37486) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mdlGX-0004lg-65 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 23:30:45 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54606) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mdlGW-0008GY-TK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 23:30:44 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:47540) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mdlGV-0002nT-Gx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 23:30:44 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mdlGT-0005kC-Gs for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Oct 2021 05:30:41 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: 5 X-Spam_score: 0.5 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (0.5 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD=1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.248, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.248, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:217841 Archived-At: Stefan Kangas writes: > A special command to expand would be useful, I think. > > But users might still want an easy way to get the variable into the help > buffer. For example, they might be using helpful.el that displays all > kinds of additional information in that buffer, or they might just > prefer having a separate buffer to display the documentation. I'm in > the latter camp; expanding documentation on the customize screen itself > makes it harder to get an overview of all available options, so I often > would rather put the full length docstring in a separate buffer. FWIW I'd like a command in a customize-group buffer to expand all docstrings. When I try out a new package I often use customize-group to get an overview of things I can tweak in it, and it's a pain to click More on all the options and to open them. bug#15748 "Provide a way to hide/show all values" is for this, but I'm now thinking that something like outline-cycle would be great in any customize buffer. Let S-TAB cycle through the various states of all options at once. -- Howard