From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Howard Melman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16214: Consistency in dired-, occur-, and grep-mode Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2022 13:17:14 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20131221.224043.270400015.tkk@misasa.okayama-u.ac.jp> <87sitl51un.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <20131222.204850.283027925.tkk@misasa.okayama-u.ac.jp> <87ppoo8srl.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87sfsr9leb.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2867"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (darwin) To: 16214@debbugs.gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:24g3WxeCKS/1PeULFf+0a7259UA= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 20 19:18:13 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nLqmj-0000a2-8t for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 20 Feb 2022 19:18:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47506 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nLqmi-0001hv-AL for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 20 Feb 2022 13:18:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40594) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nLqma-0001dk-Fx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Feb 2022 13:18:04 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:39794) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nLqmY-0004Px-5x for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Feb 2022 13:18:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nLqmY-0001YC-3T for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Feb 2022 13:18:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <20131221.224043.270400015.tkk@misasa.okayama-u.ac.jp> Resent-From: Howard Melman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2022 18:18:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16214 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.16453810505919 (code B ref -1); Sun, 20 Feb 2022 18:18:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Feb 2022 18:17:30 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33690 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nLqm1-0001XP-TW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Feb 2022 13:17:30 -0500 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:53828) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nLqm0-0001XI-R5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Feb 2022 13:17:29 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40450) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nLqlz-00012L-AX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Feb 2022 13:17:28 -0500 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:49636) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nLqlx-0004Lp-S4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Feb 2022 13:17:27 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nLqlu-0009vg-QT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Feb 2022 19:17:22 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: 5 X-Spam_score: 0.5 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (0.5 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD=1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.249, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:227260 Archived-At: Tak Kunihiro writes: >> I think this will be much easier for new and existing users to >> remember. > > Good idea. Thanks. > However, to change default is another step. I think that the > first step is (1) to write a global minor mode to provide the consistent > keymap. (2) Then install on ELPA. After a while, (3) include in main > body. (4) After a while, suggest to turn the minor mode on by default. > > I cannot initiate such project now. Thus I want to post this project in > somewhere so that someone who wants to contribute Emacs can notice this. This seems like an awful lot of overhead to change one binding that already has two other similar bindings that aren't changing. -- Howard