From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dale Hagglund Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: Re: inconsistent bindings of backspace and delete between X and xterm Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 03:03:14 -0700 Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <7137-Sat07Feb2004174147+0200-eliz@elta.co.il> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1076494616 17139 80.91.224.253 (11 Feb 2004 10:16:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 10:16:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 11 11:16:48 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AqrQG-0002X8-00 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:16:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AqrES-0001hE-Vx for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 05:04:36 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AqrEP-0001gN-ST for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 05:04:33 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AqrDr-0001Zy-Lu for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 05:04:30 -0500 Original-Received: from [198.161.246.10] (helo=isengard.yottayotta.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AqrDq-0001Z7-Rh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 05:03:58 -0500 Original-Received: from fw-edm-dmz.yottayotta.com ([192.168.1.2] helo=edm-app01.yottayotta.com) by isengard.yottayotta.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AqrE4-0004Lo-00; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 03:04:12 -0700 Original-Received: from tethys.edmonton.yottayotta.com ([10.0.1.8]) by edm-app01.yottayotta.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id DY4S7M60; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 03:03:16 -0700 Original-Received: from dernhelm.edmonton.yottayotta.com ([10.0.1.76]) by tethys.edmonton.yottayotta.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #2) id 1AqrDA-000Du5-00; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 03:03:16 -0700 Original-Received: from dernhelm.edmonton.yottayotta.com (desktopinstall [127.0.0.1]) by dernhelm.edmonton.yottayotta.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i1BA3Fk3026697; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 03:03:15 -0700 Original-Received: (from rdh@localhost) by dernhelm.edmonton.yottayotta.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i1BA3ELM026695; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 03:03:14 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: dernhelm.edmonton.yottayotta.com: rdh set sender to rdh@yottayotta.com using -f Original-To: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "11 Feb 2004 08:57:26 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:6929 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs:6929 Eli Zaretskii writes: > The function x-backup-delete-keys-p (defined on xfns.c) needs the XKB > extension of the X libraries to do its work; if your system doesn't > support XKB, that could be the reason why the above automagic doesn't > work. Bingo! x-backspace-delete-keys-p returns nil. As I mentioned, I'm running emacs inside a vnc server session, and vnc's virtual X server does *not* support the XKEYBOARD extension. I also just checked my emacs at home, which is running under a native X server, and it does have normal-erase-is-backspace set to t. > I hope the information above gives you enough to start tracing what > happens on your system during startup and see why Emacs doesn't > DTRT. Yep. Thanks for the info. Dale.