From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: goncholden via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#55862: Removing indent-tabs-mode set to t by default Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2022 14:21:33 +0000 Message-ID: References: <83h74u4csf.fsf@gnu.org> <8e7a8804-681f-200e-3c9b-c4947d059fe5@yandex.ru> Reply-To: goncholden Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29565"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 55862@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 09 17:33:09 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nzK9l-0007Ug-Hs for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 17:33:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44006 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nzK9k-0006xk-9g for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 11:33:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58866) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nzJ2w-0003Fm-Ma for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 10:22:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:53318) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nzJ2w-0003sC-D3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 10:22:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nzJ2w-0000yx-5d for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 10:22:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: goncholden Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2022 14:22:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55862 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 55862-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55862.16547845063752 (code B ref 55862); Thu, 09 Jun 2022 14:22:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 55862) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Jun 2022 14:21:46 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47215 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nzJ2g-0000yR-CE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 10:21:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-40130.protonmail.ch ([185.70.40.130]:31723) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nzJ2e-0000y5-7Q for 55862@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 10:21:45 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1654784498; x=1655043698; bh=WqREGN6YzdcgaenxkBT/yxBY9csx6xxL18KSzDXLAOM=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Reply-To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To: Feedback-ID:Message-ID; b=cCbcQKm2TuSYEC39L/Ljr4rec3YvJWVqHGsW5Qs7jLShgPjRDkSza7+WFLElKkNgI nv4RG/xveeh1H+cYRKb+9kcyr4Mjn1PbjjojQ+6m6r1LFRufSu/0gJGpie7wipd5yv DkXwVGPjjtoS6xOS9R853PLmuCuC3+56NuDT8sw9A7GFqviSEaYNtwwWqmIlUqX6ts hLO3g8UlBJ5L4RMPZrBNyFA8b4IcLrrTaCIsDbkSW/uzunmMDwHECqS4h9tzA0tG4i 9nQSu+ZZI4ihEscDYvcfk8eGdmbeG/bOIHoyw5HFG/SRnjsWbCrOV/OCDmg7BI9caj s1rf7YFTCSbuw== In-Reply-To: <8e7a8804-681f-200e-3c9b-c4947d059fe5@yandex.ru> Feedback-ID: 43053548:user:proton X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" X-ACL-Warn: , goncholden Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:234107 Archived-At: ------- Original Message ------- On Friday, June 10th, 2022 at 2:10 AM, Dmitry Gutov wrot= e: > On 09.06.2022 08:38, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > > Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2022 03:19:01 +0000 > > > From: goncholden via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, > > > the Swiss army knife of text editors"bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > > > > > > Why is `indent-tabs-mode' t by default? Tabs should not be used. > > > That depends on the major mode. E.g., in text mode and its > > > derivatives this is turned off. But in programming modes, many > > > languages accept TABs, so using them is not a bad idea, especially > > > since this is a long-standing Emacs default. > > > It being a long-time default of ours has no effect on whether using tabs > is a good idea (since Emacs is not particularly popular these days to > affect global practive). > > But you know my opinion on this anyway. This has been a continual problem with emacs as it mostly caters for passed= -over old folks stuck in the eigthies.