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From: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
To: Leo Liu <sdl.web@gmail.com>
Cc: 16038@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#16038: 24.3; latest change to with-help-window makes temp-buffer-browse useless
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 03:20:56 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <k9lhs1vfvr.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m38uo38p67.fsf@gmail.com> (Leo Liu's message of "Wed, 09 Jul 2014 06:24:16 +0800")

Leo Liu wrote:

> On 2014-07-07 21:54 -0400, Glenn Morris wrote:
>
>> If you want to do this (I know you already did...), you need to add an
>> incompatible change entry to NEWS about this, and you need to audit
>> every single use of with-output-to-temp-buffer to find the ones that
>> expected their output buffers to be in help mode.
>
> We made that change to prove the above two lines cause no harm other
> than not enabling help-mode. At some stage and probably pretty soon, we
> might merge the two macros with-output-to-temp-buffer and
> with-temp-buffer-window under one name (the former looks like a simple
> case of the latter). So the change is intermediate.

Sorry, this makes no sense to me.

with-output-to-temp-buffer is a documented macro with a specific purpose.
I shall now do the tedious thing of quoting the manual:

   This function executes the forms in BODY while arranging to insert
   any output they print into the buffer named BUFFER-NAME, which is
   first created if necessary, and put into Help mode.
   [...]
   If the forms in BODY do not change the major mode in the output
   buffer, so that it is still Help mode at the end of their
   execution, then `with-output-to-temp-buffer' makes this buffer
   read-only at the end, and also scans it for function and variable
   names to make them into clickable cross-references.

Now it does not do any of that.

The normal way to do this kind of thing is to introduce a new macro that
does whatever new thing you want, and deprecate the old one. Not to just
half-arsedly change the old one to do something else, without updating
any of the documentation or callers.





      reply	other threads:[~2014-07-10  7:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-03 14:34 bug#16038: 24.3; latest change to with-help-window makes temp-buffer-browse useless Leo Liu
2014-01-11 14:01 ` martin rudalics
2014-01-11 14:32   ` Leo Liu
2014-01-11 15:41     ` martin rudalics
2014-01-11 16:31       ` Leo Liu
2014-01-12  9:53         ` martin rudalics
2014-01-14  0:23           ` Leo Liu
2014-01-14  1:47             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-14  4:42               ` Leo Liu
2014-01-14 21:38                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-14 21:55                   ` Drew Adams
2014-01-14 23:46                     ` Leo Liu
2014-01-22  2:14                   ` Leo Liu
2014-01-22  3:02                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-22  3:32                       ` Leo Liu
2014-01-22 13:44                         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-23 10:03                           ` Leo Liu
2014-01-23 17:48                             ` Drew Adams
2014-01-24  7:30                               ` Leo Liu
2014-01-24 15:06                                 ` Drew Adams
2014-01-24 15:45                                   ` martin rudalics
2014-01-24 16:29                                     ` Drew Adams
2014-01-25  9:21                                       ` martin rudalics
2014-01-25 16:34                                         ` Drew Adams
2014-01-25 16:48                                           ` martin rudalics
2014-01-25 17:33                                             ` Drew Adams
2014-01-25 18:25                                               ` martin rudalics
2014-01-25 20:19                                                 ` Drew Adams
2014-01-26 11:24                                                   ` martin rudalics
2014-01-26 17:52                                                     ` Drew Adams
2014-01-27  8:21                                                       ` martin rudalics
2014-01-27 15:14                                                         ` Drew Adams
2014-01-22  3:07                     ` Glenn Morris
2014-07-08  1:54             ` Glenn Morris
2014-07-08  2:04               ` Glenn Morris
2014-07-08  5:59                 ` Glenn Morris
2014-07-08 13:57                   ` Drew Adams
2014-07-08 22:24               ` Leo Liu
2014-07-10  7:20                 ` Glenn Morris [this message]

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