From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: Re: user has no business toggling overwrite-mode in read-only buffers Date: 21 Apr 2003 22:12:39 +0200 Organization: muc.de e.V. -- private internet access Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1050956204 7757 80.91.224.249 (21 Apr 2003 20:16:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 20:16:44 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 21 22:16:43 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 197hiJ-000208-00 for ; Mon, 21 Apr 2003 22:16:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 197hiN-0002XO-0A for gnu-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2003 16:16:35 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 197hhe-0002LV-00 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2003 16:15:50 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 197hhJ-00024y-00 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2003 16:15:36 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 197hhH-0001xs-00 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2003 16:15:27 -0400 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 197hhG-0008Mv-00 for gnu-emacs-bug@prep.ai.mit.edu; Mon, 21 Apr 2003 16:15:26 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 197hh5-0001i6-00 for gnu-emacs-bug@prep.ai.mit.edu; Mon, 21 Apr 2003 16:15:20 -0400 Original-Received: from marvin.muc.de ([193.149.48.2]) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 197hgh-0001Ch-00 for gnu-emacs-bug@prep.ai.mit.edu; Mon, 21 Apr 2003 16:14:51 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 31892 invoked by uid 8); 21 Apr 2003 20:12:39 -0000 Original-To: gnu-emacs-bug@prep.ai.mit.edu Original-Path: not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.bug Original-Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 07:56:04 +0000 Original-Lines: 24 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: acm.muc.de Original-X-Trace: marvin.muc.de 1050955959 31888 193.149.49.134 (21 Apr 2003 20:12:39 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: news-admin@muc.de Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 21 Apr 2003 20:12:39 GMT User-Agent: tin/1.4.5-20010409 ("One More Nightmare") (UNIX) (Linux/2.0.35 (i686)) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:4862 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs:4862 Dan Jacobson wrote on Mon, 21 Apr 2003 09:32:45 +0800: > You do C-x C-q first. So it isn't a read-only buffer anymore. I.e., > um, "like, read the Subject line, Holmes." Sorry about that. > You got me all wrong. overwrite-mode is that little thing activated by > your pinky when it misses the DEL key and hits the INS key. It is good > for changing xxxxxxxxxxxx to xxxxxyyyxxxx without hitting DEL... maybe > it should have been called overprint or overstrike mode. Ah! Um, yes, that was indeed what you wrote. Maybe I should indeed read the subject line. Since when was "toggle over" ever a phrasal verb anyway? :-( > I was just saying the user should have to do vc-toggle-read-only > (^X^Q) before doing () overwrite-mode. Apologies Dan, apologies to everybody else for wasting bandwidth. -- Alan Mackenzie (Munich, Germany) Email: aacm@muuc.dee; to decode, wherever there is a repeated letter (like "aa"), remove half of them (leaving, say, "a").