From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9244: 24.0.50; Server put offline without any prompt Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 17:11:42 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1315689121 28219 80.91.229.12 (10 Sep 2011 21:12:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 21:12:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 9244@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 10 23:11:56 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R2UqC-0000Si-2k for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 23:11:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54049 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R2UqB-0005UM-55 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 17:11:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:58909) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R2Uq9-0005Ta-CK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 17:11:54 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R2Uq8-00026S-Hz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 17:11:53 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:58442) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R2Uq8-00026E-F9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 17:11:52 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R2UuA-0002Lj-8a; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 17:16:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 21:16:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9244 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 9244-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9244.13156893589021 (code B ref 9244); Sat, 10 Sep 2011 21:16:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 9244) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Sep 2011 21:15:58 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R2Uu5-0002LS-TS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 17:15:58 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181] helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R2Uu3-0002LL-Sw for 9244@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 17:15:56 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Am0HANrRa05FxK3+/2dsb2JhbABBoV6GOnmBUgEBBAFWIwULCzQSFBgNJC2HXbRuhm4EoDKEQw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.68,361,1312171200"; d="scan'208";a="135588087" Original-Received: from 69-196-173-254.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([69.196.173.254]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 10 Sep 2011 17:11:42 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id C3A15663AA; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 17:11:42 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sat, 10 Sep 2011 21:29:32 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 17:16:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:50806 Archived-At: > The prompting drove me crazy, because it would trigger in the middle of > doing, well, anything, like batch-sending emails. > But I could add an option to enable people to get the prompt if they > want to? I don't necessarily need the prompt, but the current behavior is much too silent for my taste: I don't get any message about going offline, and typically the only way I notice the problem is that "g" keeps telling me there's no news, even though I know that the last refresh was sufficiently long ago that at least some spam must have arrived in the mean time. And then I have to figure out how to bring it back online. I'm a sufficiently sophisticated user that I can handle it, but my wife would just tell me "this =ABGnus=BB thingy of yours doesn't work". The prompt may not always be welcome, but in practice I almost *never* want to go offline. So I'd much rather default to "retry" than to "go offline". And for my use, making this decision when Emacs prompted me worked pretty well. Stefan