From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#12948: 24.1; wrong angle brackets Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 16:15:38 -0500 Message-ID: References: <8B118AE0-D73E-4354-BFCD-6FBA32DFC821@bredband.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1353705401 15808 80.91.229.3 (23 Nov 2012 21:16:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 21:16:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 12948@debbugs.gnu.org To: Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 23 22:16:52 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Tc0cE-0003fg-EM for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 22:16:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47642 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tc0c3-0005Wk-D6 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 16:16:39 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42750) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tc0c0-0005To-4Z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 16:16:37 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tc0by-0005Ub-Uw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 16:16:36 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:53282) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tc0by-0005UV-Q1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 16:16:34 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tc0dO-0003J3-2i for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 16:18:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 21:18:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12948 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 12948-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12948.135370542912645 (code B ref 12948); Fri, 23 Nov 2012 21:18:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 12948) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Nov 2012 21:17:09 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35300 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tc0cX-0003Ht-Eu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 16:17:09 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:36588) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tc0cW-0003Hn-B5 for 12948@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 16:17:08 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAG6Zu09FpaQ6/2dsb2JhbABEtBGBCIIVAQEEAVYjBQsLNBIUGA0kiBwFC7l+kEQDiEKacYFYgwc X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,637,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="208343312" Original-Received: from 69-165-164-58.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.165.164.58]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 23 Nov 2012 16:15:39 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 23459597C9; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 16:15:38 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <8B118AE0-D73E-4354-BFCD-6FBA32DFC821@bredband.net> ("Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?="'s message of "Tue, 20 Nov 2012 23:57:51 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:67371 Archived-At: > With the TeX input method, \langle and \rangle yield the deprecated > characters U+2329 and U+232A rather than the ones at U+27E8 and U+27E9 > which are for mathematical use and Western languages. The former > characters should not be used; they are troublesome because of their > canonical equivalence to CJK punctuation, and are frequently rendered > (correctly) as having the full width of a CJK character. Sounds OK. BTW why not 3008 and 3009 instead? > These definitions are in leim/quail/latin-ltx.el. The same file also > produces the deprecated angle brackets from \leftparengtr and > \rightparengtr, but this makes even less sense, since those names should > properly be used for U+2993 and U+2994, unless I'm completely mistaken. This is less clear. I can't find any of \leftparengtr or \rightparengtr in any TeX package on my system. Searching for them on the web, leads to more confusion. Basically, I think that 2994 for \rightparengtr would be OK (tho it seems that there's a TeX package that provides it under the name \rparengtr), but for \leftparengtr http://www.w3.org/Math/characters/iso8879/isoamsc.html seems to suggest that 29a0 is a better choice (after all, 2993 is a left paren with a "less-than" rather than "greater-than" in it). WDYT? Stefan