From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#18643: 25.0.50; elisp--expect-function-p Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:32:26 -0400 Message-ID: References: <3601111412974400@web5o.yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1413311612 32210 80.91.229.3 (14 Oct 2014 18:33:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 18:33:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Dmitry Gutov , "18643@debbugs.gnu.org" <18643@debbugs.gnu.org> To: Leo Liu Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 14 20:33:23 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xe6uR-0000Ew-56 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 20:33:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39902 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xe6uQ-0004Ni-P7 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:33:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46841) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xe6uF-0004EO-5F for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:33:18 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xe6u7-0004og-AG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:33:11 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:51899) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xe6u7-0004oS-8C for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:33:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xe6u6-0005ca-JU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:33:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 18:33:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18643 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 18643-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18643.141331155421536 (code B ref 18643); Tue, 14 Oct 2014 18:33:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 18643) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Oct 2014 18:32:34 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43463 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xe6td-0005bF-9Z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:32:33 -0400 Original-Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:49956) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xe6tb-0005b5-Hk for 18643@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:32:32 -0400 Original-Received: from ceviche.home (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id s9EIWUSd014800; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:32:30 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id D3E7E66089; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:32:26 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Leo Liu's message of "Sat, 11 Oct 2014 22:21:16 +0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV5094=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9378 : core <5094> : inlines <1396> : streams <1316769> : uri <1824896> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:94481 >> I'd like to include company in core Emacs, yes. Enable it by default, >> maybe not, or not yet. But it's an important use case. > That's my impression. It is perfectly fine to make things work better > for company. I am a bit worried seeing the default get worse. I agree, we should try to handle both cases better. I.e. have a way to distinguish "the user explicitly requested completion, so try to come up with something" from the company case where we only want to auto pop up a completion menu if we're sufficiently confident that the suggestions are valuable. Question is how to do it. One way I see we could do it is by adding a property to completion data (e.g. in the data returned by the completion-at-point-function) which says something like "unsure" or "low-quality" so we could ignore those when the user hasn't explicitly requested completion. Stefan