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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: acm@muc.de, 29478@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net
Subject: bug#29478: `C-h k' followed by mouse clicks no longer shows down event
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2017 11:19:02 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvzi69ifs2.fsf-monnier+bug#29478@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83bmji2xye.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 01 Dec 2017 18:51:37 +0200")

>> >   For documentation of the corresponding mouse-down event,
>> >   click and hold the mouse button longer than %s sec.
>> > (where %s gets replaced by double-click-time)?
>> That's a hack/workaround

Agreed.

> The previous way, where down-event was described before the up-event,
> was also a hack.

Maybe its implementation was hackish, but as far as the UI goes I don't
think it was a hack.

> The fundamental problem here is that Emacs doesn't
> know what the user wants/needs, and the semi-kludgey way we intuit
> that when processing mouse gestures is part of the reason.

The way to solve this is to add a menu/index at the beginning indicating
that there were *several* events, such that the user is made aware that
he may have to skip some info to find the one of interest (and
presumably this menu is made clickable so the user can easily jump to
the part he wants).

The same kind of situation shows up with `C-h o` for symbols that
combine various roles (function, variable, type, face, ...), BTW.


        Stefan





  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-12-23 16:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-27 23:21 bug#29478: 26.0.90; `C-h k' followed by mouse clicks no longer shows down event Drew Adams
2017-11-28  1:50 ` Noam Postavsky
2017-11-28 17:11   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-28 22:10   ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-11-29  0:44     ` Noam Postavsky
2017-11-29  3:36       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-29  4:33     ` Drew Adams
2017-12-01  8:31       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-09 17:18         ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-12-23 14:28         ` bug#29478: [Patch 2]: " Alan Mackenzie
2017-12-23 14:48           ` Andreas Schwab
2017-12-24  8:43             ` Alan Mackenzie
     [not found]   ` <<20171128221036.GC14868@ACM>
     [not found]     ` <<bbcb1d00-a728-4b5e-b65f-bd2b168c4a51@default>
     [not found]       ` <<83o9ni3l3i.fsf@gnu.org>
2017-12-01 15:35         ` Drew Adams
2017-12-01 16:51           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-09 16:13             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-09 17:23               ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-12-22 22:05               ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-12-23  9:42                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-23 11:17                   ` bug#29478: [Patch] " Alan Mackenzie
2017-12-23 12:41                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-23 16:33                     ` Stefan Monnier
2017-12-23 21:04                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-12-24  4:55                         ` Stefan Monnier
2017-12-24  5:41                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-24  6:52                         ` Stefan Monnier
2017-12-24 11:48                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-12-24 15:41                             ` Stefan Monnier
2017-12-30 10:50                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-03  3:56                             ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-06 17:40                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-07 15:31                                 ` bug#29478: [SUSPECTED SPAM] " Stefan Monnier
2018-01-07 17:46                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-07 18:03                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-26 22:00                                 ` bug#29478: " Stefan Monnier
2018-01-26 22:37                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-27  8:28                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-28 16:02                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-28 17:18                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-29 21:54                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-30  3:23                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-30 14:18                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-30 15:40                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-30 16:59                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-27  7:59                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-30 10:51                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-30 11:32                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-12-30 12:49                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-23 16:19             ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2020-08-26 13:43 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-26 17:12   ` Drew Adams

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