From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#64835: =?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=98describe-variable=E2=80=99?= unconditionally let-binds =?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=98print-circle=E2=80=99?= to t Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2023 08:55:43 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87zg3lmf1v.fsf@whxvd.name> <877cq8519p.fsf@web.de> <87bkfiqjbj.fsf@web.de> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15122"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Sebastian Miele , 64835@debbugs.gnu.org To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 08 14:57:10 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qTMGr-0003k4-S6 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 08 Aug 2023 14:57:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qTMGm-00012a-5f; Tue, 08 Aug 2023 08:57:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qTMGk-00012N-8z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Aug 2023 08:57:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qTMGk-0000y1-05 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Aug 2023 08:57:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qTMGj-0007rd-Le for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Aug 2023 08:57:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2023 12:57:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 64835 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 64835-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B64835.169149937030167 (code B ref 64835); Tue, 08 Aug 2023 12:57:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 64835) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Aug 2023 12:56:10 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35530 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qTMFt-0007qV-Ql for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Aug 2023 08:56:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:17132) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qTMFq-0007q2-LV for 64835@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Aug 2023 08:56:09 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 75A2E807A4; Tue, 8 Aug 2023 08:56:00 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1691499359; bh=l20ySj16sHDvyupliiWwvdxipHEb7k8vw8ZyshUHnwk=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=ZdPeBMxK9ychH4s0OD8I5jhAluS5SDCHK/3n2B0gDZRTUK+I5GmF3LcP7LCLYX1oP iMSjRqUK6Jkv35GOOFxCbAprP6SCC5oO24l1UGHuX8rIWguLQOn29fSiz0bCP39EsR aGa15Enr/qODpyE0nv80h91oa62zc2I2Ye6ac+BYKQDUcJIoRgNkzvJnr3nWvYsFRU M/FqqxX+HPRl6UJskax7CSQxEsfbVD6oB5pypc2/E6zJb4Sgol4BmXKkpV0BL2tRpo 6AV+bUz1rPzSXGVwjwXlBHNc5A1oD4owhba0jNE0qiyLF3wLTBxvhn9Dxa6ZLD375/ foYCS65ASlDhA== Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 1C14180081; Tue, 8 Aug 2023 08:55:59 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from alfajor (host56.201-252-107.telecom.net.ar [201.252.107.56]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5D041120243; Tue, 8 Aug 2023 08:55:57 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87bkfiqjbj.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Tue, 08 Aug 2023 05:55:28 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:266954 Archived-At: >> > Stefan, would it be ok to turn off `print-circle' for >> > `describe-variable' again, or would this break something in the new >> > code? >> I can't think of any reason it would break anything (famous last >> words, of course :-) > I have a strange feeling. There was not some problem with numbering in > the #N syntax (with `print-circle' off) that lead you to this change, or > something like this? I vaguely remember there was something... There was recently an inconsistency in the numbering, but that wasn't a serious problem, it's been fixed, and it was not related to use of `print-circle` (IIRC I activated `print-circle` there because of a case where I bumped into where it was "obvious" that `print-circle` would make it a lot more readable and I didn't realize it could make it harder to read other values for the unsuspecting user). Stefan