From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1765: Copy/paste inconsistent with other X apps Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 21:29:44 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87r63j4uez.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <877i5bwl0a.fsf@turtle.gmx.de> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier , 1765@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1231123481 5459 80.91.229.12 (5 Jan 2009 02:44:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 02:44:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 1765@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: Ole Laursen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 05 03:45:52 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LJfTT-0002kY-RS for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2009 03:45:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51058 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LJfSE-0008Uq-Ev for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 21:44:34 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LJfRB-0008I0-3t for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 21:43:29 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LJfR9-0008H9-HC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 21:43:28 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=37820 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LJfR9-0008Gv-11 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 21:43:27 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:48758) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LJfR8-0002lW-Dm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 21:43:26 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n052hN3N014396; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:43:23 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n052Z5Cq012134; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:35:05 -0800 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 02:35:05 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 1765 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 1765-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B1765.123112259510720 (code B ref 1765); Mon, 05 Jan 2009 02:35:05 +0000 Original-Received: (at 1765) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 5 Jan 2009 02:29:55 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com (ironport2-out.teksavvy.com [206.248.154.182]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n052To1g010704 for <1765@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:29:52 -0800 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtEEADr/YElLd+Xf/2dsb2JhbACBbMdmhXKBaQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,330,1228107600"; d="scan'208";a="31783843" Original-Received: from 75-119-229-223.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([75.119.229.223]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 04 Jan 2009 21:29:44 -0500 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 5BE4C7020E; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 21:29:44 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Ole Laursen's message of "Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:29:59 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 21:43:28 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:23774 Archived-At: > Regarding speed issues: other applications with much larger data sets > can use the clipboard without problems. If you read Jamie Zawinski's IIRC the speed issue had to do with the fact that in Emacs it is very common to select the region (with the keyboard) for purposes that have nothing to do with cut&paste. E.g. you may select enormous amounts of text (e.g. almost the whole buffer) just to perform a search&replace or an undo-in-region. If you consider "select a region with the keyboard" as meaning "copy to clipboard", then you can end up with serious performance problems. Even more so with remote connections, of course. So as long as "copy to clipboard" is a separate command there shouldn't be any problem. Stefan