From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1754: 23.0.60; tool-bar is shown with tool-bar-mode off Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:57:23 -0500 Message-ID: References: <005301c96b95$547ae890$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> <4969D690.5090004@gmx.at> <496A28FD.6090909@gmx.at> <496B145C.2070104@gmx.at> <496B690C.7070506@gmx.at> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier , 1754@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1231795513 27776 80.91.229.12 (12 Jan 2009 21:25:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:25:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 1754@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 12 22:26:25 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LMUId-00079W-Q2 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:26:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52969 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LMUHN-0007h6-Bi for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:25:01 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LMUFx-00066R-Na for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:23:34 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LMUFu-00062x-A6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:23:32 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=36884 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LMUFs-00061x-G3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:23:28 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:50877) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LMUFr-0001GQ-St for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:23:28 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0CLNPtg016872; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 13:23:26 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n0CL550E012152; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 13:05:05 -0800 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:05:05 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 1754 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 1754-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B1754.12317938539949 (code B ref 1754); Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:05:05 +0000 Original-Received: (at 1754) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 12 Jan 2009 20:57:33 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com (ironport2-out.pppoe.ca [206.248.154.182]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0CKvT57009943 for <1754@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:57:31 -0800 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApwEAC89a0lMCpxj/2dsb2JhbACBbNIQhW+BbA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.37,254,1231131600"; d="scan'208";a="32199302" Original-Received: from 76-10-156-99.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([76.10.156.99]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 12 Jan 2009 15:57:24 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id B43A28440; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:57:23 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:33:02 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:23:32 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:24047 Archived-At: >> The problem is that tool-bar-mode, and menu-bar-mode and too coarse: >> they offer no way for the user to say whether he wants it to apply to >> every single frame, or only to those currently displayed, or only the >> current one, or only those on the current terminal, ... >> >> Also, making them work right would probably require keeping track for >> each and ever frame of where its parameters came from. So tool-bar-mode >> could just set default-frame-alist and then "refresh" every >> frame's parameters. > Isn't that a good general structure for all kinds of local/global settings? Yes, I think so. Not that it's easy to do, tho. Stefan