From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14704: 24.3.50; cl-lib breaks built-in Emacs version Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 22:11:13 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1372126330 29458 80.91.229.3 (25 Jun 2013 02:12:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 02:12:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Juanma Barranquero , 14704@debbugs.gnu.org To: Sebastian Wiesner Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 25 04:12:09 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UrIjo-0003Cg-Iy for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 04:12:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36610 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UrIjn-0006Ag-OO for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 22:12:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46312) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UrIjj-0006AD-SL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 22:12:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UrIjj-0005Ks-2B for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 22:12:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:44953) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UrIji-0005Ko-VX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 22:12:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UrIji-0005yd-EU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 22:12:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 02:12:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14704 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 14704-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14704.137212628222916 (code B ref 14704); Tue, 25 Jun 2013 02:12:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 14704) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jun 2013 02:11:22 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39269 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UrIj3-0005xY-Lf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 22:11:22 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:43491) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UrIj0-0005xK-Vx for 14704@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 22:11:19 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgEFABK/CFFMCppA/2dsb2JhbABEhke0boNZF3OCHgEBBAEjMyMFCwsODAIYDgICFBgNJIgeBq5fkk6BI40LgUmBEwOkeoFegmop X-IPAS-Result: AgEFABK/CFFMCppA/2dsb2JhbABEhke0boNZF3OCHgEBBAEjMyMFCwsODAIYDgICFBgNJIgeBq5fkk6BI40LgUmBEwOkeoFegmop X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="17085859" Original-Received: from 76-10-154-64.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO fmsmemgm.homelinux.net) ([76.10.154.64]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 24 Jun 2013 22:11:07 -0400 Original-Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 10E8BAE246; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 22:11:13 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Sebastian Wiesner's message of "Mon, 24 Jun 2013 20:26:27 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:75543 Archived-At: > By not writing or running tests for *your* code you have wasted *my* > time. That is what I call =E2=80=9Crude=E2=80=9D. Im sorry I wasted your time, but do note that all the time I put into breaking Emacs (and package.el more recently) is purely my own leisure time, so I'm very happy not to have to follow too strict procedures. Stefan "who'd have been happier not touching package.el at all, since he never uses it and doesn't even know half of the expected use cases, which makes writing tests that much more interesting."