From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19395: 25.0.50; Setting left fringe to 0 messes up window-width Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 09:16:04 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87vblbnz2u.fsf@posteo.de> <83k31rwe55.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhm772o2.fsf@posteo.de> <83h9wvwbux.fsf@gnu.org> <83egrzvtb0.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1418825855 5811 80.91.229.3 (17 Dec 2014 14:17:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 14:17:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 19395@debbugs.gnu.org, malsburg@posteo.de To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 17 15:17:27 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y1FPq-0001c1-N4 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2014 15:17:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49752 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y1FPl-00029u-2J for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2014 09:17:21 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39843) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y1FPa-00029i-7u for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2014 09:17:17 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y1FPS-0000lV-Oa for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2014 09:17:10 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:39212) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y1FPS-0000lP-Kc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2014 09:17:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y1FPS-0005Vj-5n for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2014 09:17:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 14:17:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19395 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 19395-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19395.141882576920469 (code B ref 19395); Wed, 17 Dec 2014 14:17:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19395) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Dec 2014 14:16:09 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48578 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y1FOa-0005JU-VU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2014 09:16:09 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:40150) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y1FOX-0005Fp-U3 for 19395@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2014 09:16:06 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aj8PAOwQflTO+ILA/2dsb2JhbABbgweDYIVawjuCYgQCAoEkFwEBAQEBAXyEAwEBAwFWIwULCzQSFBgNJIhKCdZZAQEBAQEBBAEBAQEekG8HhEgFiwGSMYZRiyyBeIQZIYJ3AQEB X-IPAS-Result: Aj8PAOwQflTO+ILA/2dsb2JhbABbgweDYIVawjuCYgQCAoEkFwEBAQEBAXyEAwEBAwFWIwULCzQSFBgNJIhKCdZZAQEBAQEBBAEBAQEekG8HhEgFiwGSMYZRiyyBeIQZIYJ3AQEB X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.07,502,1413259200"; d="scan'208";a="102787982" Original-Received: from 206-248-130-192.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([206.248.130.192]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 17 Dec 2014 09:16:05 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id DAAE525DC; Wed, 17 Dec 2014 09:16:04 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <83egrzvtb0.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 17 Dec 2014 05:39:15 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:97440 Archived-At: >> That sounds wrong: if the user decides to get rid of the left-fringe, >> she just shouldn't get any continuation glyph on the left. > That's how Emacs worked since v21.1. Definitely not 21.1: in 21.1 the fringes could not be modified at all. > But then users asked to have continuation and truncation glyphs in > that case, I do remember users clamoring for the possibility to eliminate the fringes, which was indeed added (in the form of set-window-fringes) a few versions later (not sure exactly when, but >= 22.1 and <= 22.3). I don't remember users asking for "no fringe, but still something where we can display the continuation glyphs" (and since the fringe is the thing where we display the continuation glyphs, I read this as "no fringe, yet with a fringe"). This said, I wouldn't be surprised if some users asked for that. > So what you are suggesting is going back and deleting a feature which > was added by users' request. Not necessarily: I'm suggesting that maybe the Emacs-22 behavior where "continuation glyphs" are only ever displayed in the fringe (and hence aren't displayed if there's no fringe) is preferable. Note also that in the OP's situation, there *is* a fringe on the right, so I don't see why we need to keep an extra empty space on the right since we'll never display a continuation glyph on the right elsewhere than in the fringe. Stefan