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From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 68075@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#68075: 30.0.50; New special form `handler-bind`
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2023 14:07:18 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvy1da6vv8.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83le9c3z6k.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 30 Dec 2023 09:52:03 +0200")

>> >> +@var{handler} is called in the dynamic context where the error
>> >> +happened, without first unwinding the stack, meaning that all the
>> >> +dynamic bindings are still in effect,
>> >
>> > Should we tell something about the effects of lexical-binding on those
>> > "dynamic bindings"?
>> 
>> It's not related to `handler-bind` in any case, so if
>> we want to say something about it, we should do it elsewhere (and
>> I think we already do when we discuss lexical binding).
>
> Maybe I'm confused by your use of "dynamic context" and "dynamic
> bindings" in that passage, which somehow hinted on dynamic vs lexical
> binding.

Of course: "dynamic context" refers to things that include dynamically
bound variable (as well as the set of active catch tags, error handlers,
and unwind-protect forms), and does not include statically bound
variables.  `handler-bind` is different from `condition-case` in the way
it interacts with that dynamic context.  But for statically bound
variables, well, they obey the rules of static scoping so there's
nothing to influence here.

> If this is irrelevant, maybe try to reword the text so that
> this potentially confusing terminology is not used?

Could you give an example piece of code where this "confusing
terminology" makes you unsure how things would work?


        Stefan






  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-31 19:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-28  6:33 bug#68075: 30.0.50; New special form `handler-bind` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-28  8:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-28 18:12   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-28 18:14     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-30  7:50       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-28 18:25     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-28 22:04       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-30  7:52     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-31 19:07       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2023-12-31 19:36         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-01 15:37           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-01 16:06             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-01 16:55               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-01 17:35                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-02  4:56                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-04 23:57                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-05  0:38                       ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-05  0:50                     ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-05  2:57                       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors

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