From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9754: Issue with Emacs 23.4 Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 21:19:44 -0400 Message-ID: References: <4FAC34DA.7040606@cs.ucla.edu> <4FB2A9C7.3070604@cornell.edu> <4FB2CFF9.70309@cs.ucla.edu> <4FB2D8AB.7030401@cornell.edu> <878vgsrpoh.fsf@Rainer.invalid> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1337217657 17908 80.91.229.3 (17 May 2012 01:20:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 01:20:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 9754@debbugs.gnu.org To: Achim Gratz Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 17 03:20:56 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SUpOh-00053W-US for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 17 May 2012 03:20:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37365 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SUpOh-0004Yk-7i for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 May 2012 21:20:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:36175) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SUpOd-0004YQ-UC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 May 2012 21:20:53 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SUpOb-0006kv-Nh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 May 2012 21:20:51 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:48763) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SUpOb-0006kb-IZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 May 2012 21:20:49 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SUpOn-0003AO-M9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 May 2012 21:21:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 01:21:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9754 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo Original-Received: via spool by 9754-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9754.133721760412106 (code B ref 9754); Thu, 17 May 2012 01:21:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 9754) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 May 2012 01:20:04 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58309 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SUpNr-00039D-VG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 May 2012 21:20:04 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.143.162]:56801) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SUpNr-00038i-2V for 9754@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 May 2012 21:20:03 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApYIACxOgk9FpZcD/2dsb2JhbABDuCMDgQyBCIIJAQEEAVYjEAsOJhIUGA0kiBwFtjKLYYR5BKRFgV2DAw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,391,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="180643277" Original-Received: from 69-165-151-3.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.165.151.3]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 16 May 2012 21:19:45 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id CF6F859577; Wed, 16 May 2012 21:19:44 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <878vgsrpoh.fsf@Rainer.invalid> (Achim Gratz's message of "Wed, 16 May 2012 19:39:10 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:60097 Archived-At: >> At least it doesn't seem "obviously correct" to me: what if the user >> opens up an X frame after starting "emacs -nw"? > The hang arises when emacs is started without an X server present or at > least with DISPLAY not set. I don't see how a user would be able to > open an X frame at a later point in time in that situation (or > reasonable expect he might be able to). Easy: M-x make-frame-on-display. Or start an emacs server and then connect to the server from an emacsclient with a DISPLAY set (which ends up calling make-frame-on-display as well, of course). Stefan