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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Daiki Ueno <ueno@gnu.org>
Cc: tzz@lifelogs.com, 15552@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#15552: 24.3.50; epa-file-cache-passphrase-for-symmetric-encryption not respected with GnuPG 2.x
Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 23:01:58 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvwqlni22h.fsf-monnier+emacsbugs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fvsbctxe.fsf-ueno@gnu.org> (Daiki Ueno's message of "Wed, 09 Oct 2013 06:51:57 +0900")

> It used to work like that with gpg1.  However, gpg2's implementation
> choice is that it does not leak the indication that gpg2 (actually
> gpg-agent) requires passphrase and it does not allow other tools than
> pinentry to inject passphrase.

IOW epa-file-cache-passphrase-for-symmetric-encryption only works for
gpg1 and not for gpg2?

> IMO that's a good idea for security (as pinentry uses secmem).

There are many situations where local security is not nearly as
important as convenience.  But IIUC with gpg2 the general answer is "use
gpg-agent to do the caching", and it's supposed to work fine (i.e. it's
just as convenient as caching the password in Emacs).

>> Stefan "Also confused about what "symmetric" has to do with it"
> Perhaps you could try the above recipe under gpg-agent is properly set up:
> $ echo abc > file
> $ gpg --symmetric file
> $ eval `gpg-agent --daemon`
> $ gpg2 < file.gpg
> $ gpg2 < file.gpg
> You won't be asked for the passphrase at the second time, because
> gpg-agent remembers passphrase based on the file content.

That doesn't really explain to me why
epa-file-cache-passphrase-for-symmetric-encryption has "symmetric" in
its name and more specifically why caching of passphrases would be
different for symmetric than for public key cryptography.


        Stefan





  reply	other threads:[~2013-10-09  3:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-07 17:56 bug#15552: 24.3.50; epa-file-cache-passphrase-for-symmetric-encryption not respected with GnuPG 2.x Teodor Zlatanov
2013-10-07 23:41 ` Daiki Ueno
2013-10-08  0:46   ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-10-08  3:14   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-08  7:03     ` Daiki Ueno
2013-10-08 10:47       ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-10-08 17:17       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-08 21:51         ` Daiki Ueno
2013-10-09  3:01           ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2013-10-09  3:53             ` Daiki Ueno
2013-10-09  9:32               ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-10-09 12:40               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-10  3:08                 ` Daiki Ueno
2013-10-10 13:25                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-10-10 14:31                     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-10 14:32                   ` Stefan Monnier

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