From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16413: 24.3.50; Inconsistent behavior of text property functions in narrowed buffer Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 23:21:13 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87mwj3fcal.fsf@nbtrap.com> <52D0C30D.9050305@dancol.org> <8361praqvc.fsf@gnu.org> <52D0FADE.8060605@dancol.org> <52D21B75.501@dancol.org> <8761po975c.fsf@nbtrap.com> <52D365C9.5050904@dancol.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1389586939 29969 80.91.229.3 (13 Jan 2014 04:22:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 04:22:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Nathan Trapuzzano , 16413@debbugs.gnu.org To: Daniel Colascione Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 13 05:22:25 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W2Z2e-00022T-O6 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 05:22:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40485 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W2Z2Z-00075w-WF for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 23:22:20 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54691) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W2Z2P-00075j-Cb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 23:22:16 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W2Z2I-0002aG-3k for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 23:22:09 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:34218) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W2Z2I-0002aB-0E for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 23:22:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W2Z2H-0002dX-Ko for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 23:22:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 04:22:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16413 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 16413-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16413.138958687510058 (code B ref 16413); Mon, 13 Jan 2014 04:22:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 16413) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jan 2014 04:21:15 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48237 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W2Z1X-0002c9-9Q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 23:21:15 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:37779) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W2Z1V-0002c2-VQ for 16413@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 23:21:14 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av8EABK/CFFMCoyj/2dsb2JhbABEuzWDWRdzgh4BAQQBViMQCw4mEhQYDSSIHgbBLZEKA4hhnBmBXoMV X-IPAS-Result: Av8EABK/CFFMCoyj/2dsb2JhbABEuzWDWRdzgh4BAQQBViMQCw4mEhQYDSSIHgbBLZEKA4hhnBmBXoMV X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="44803031" Original-Received: from 76-10-140-163.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([76.10.140.163]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 12 Jan 2014 23:21:13 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 536B2613F1; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 23:21:13 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <52D365C9.5050904@dancol.org> (Daniel Colascione's message of "Sun, 12 Jan 2014 20:04:25 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:83384 Archived-At: >>> Apart from the consideration of breaking existing elisp, do you think >>> there's substantial disagreement on these questions? >> Oh yes. Look at the uses of narrowing in info-mode for an example. > What about it? It looks like normal elisp use of narrowing to me. To the user, the text outside of the visible area doesn't exist at all. (line-number-at-pos (point-min)) should return 1 there, even though there are always several/many lines of text before point-min. Stefan