From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de>,
Gemini Lasswell <gazally@runbox.com>,
36566@debbugs.gnu.org, Noam Postavsky <npostavs@gmail.com>
Subject: bug#36566: 27.0.50; debug is sometimes horribly slow
Date: Sun, 15 May 2022 12:52:44 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvwnemd9pk.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pmkehifs.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sun, 15 May 2022 18:25:11 +0200")
Lars Ingebrigtsen [2022-05-15 18:25:11] wrote:
> Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>>> But this reminds me -- why do we have `cl-print' anyway?
>> Because we want to let packages use `cl-defmethod` to provide their own
>> output syntax for their objects.
>>> Shouldn't the C version handle printing things nicely?
>> The C code doesn't really know about cl-defstructs (or advice objects).
> Wouldn't it make sense to teach the C `prin1' about those (and also call
> out to the Lisp level for the objects that have a specialised print
> syntax)?
Maybe it would. I tend to think we should focus the C code on printing
data quickly and in a `read`able way (i.e. in sync with `lread.c`) and
benefit from the comfort of ELisp for the implementation of the
human-readable version of the printout where performance is not as
important because we will truncate long outputs anyway.
> We've got something vaguely similar with `print-unreadable-function',
> for instance.
This var is bound to the notion of `read`able, not "human readable",
which is why it belong in the C code (because sadly not everything can
be printed in a `read`able way).
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-05-15 16:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-07-10 3:09 bug#36566: 27.0.50; debug is sometimes horribly slow Michael Heerdegen
2019-07-10 3:18 ` Drew Adams
2019-07-10 11:20 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-07-10 22:46 ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-07-14 0:02 ` Gemini Lasswell
2019-07-15 2:05 ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-08-01 1:06 ` Gemini Lasswell
2019-08-01 0:53 ` Gemini Lasswell
2019-08-01 1:05 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-08-05 19:53 ` Gemini Lasswell
2019-08-19 1:30 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-09-06 16:41 ` Gemini Lasswell
2019-09-11 2:54 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-09-13 21:08 ` Gemini Lasswell
2019-09-14 13:44 ` Mauro Aranda
2019-09-14 14:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-14 14:16 ` Mauro Aranda
2019-09-14 15:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-04-25 14:41 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-25 23:23 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-04-27 0:37 ` Gemini Lasswell
2022-04-27 4:42 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-04-27 12:28 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-28 17:56 ` Gemini Lasswell
2022-05-13 16:01 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-14 3:57 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-05-14 11:35 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-14 13:52 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-05-14 15:45 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-14 16:05 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-05-14 16:18 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-14 16:54 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-14 18:55 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-05-15 12:25 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-15 13:33 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-15 16:13 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-05-15 16:25 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-15 16:52 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2022-05-16 1:00 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-16 1:39 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-05-16 1:44 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-05-16 12:11 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-15 7:47 ` Rudolf Schlatte
2022-05-15 12:28 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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