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From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de>,
	Gemini Lasswell <gazally@runbox.com>,
	36566@debbugs.gnu.org, Noam Postavsky <npostavs@gmail.com>
Subject: bug#36566: 27.0.50; debug is sometimes horribly slow
Date: Sun, 15 May 2022 12:52:44 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvwnemd9pk.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pmkehifs.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sun, 15 May 2022 18:25:11 +0200")

Lars Ingebrigtsen [2022-05-15 18:25:11] wrote:
> Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>>> But this reminds me -- why do we have `cl-print' anyway?
>> Because we want to let packages use `cl-defmethod` to provide their own
>> output syntax for their objects.
>>> Shouldn't the C version handle printing things nicely?
>> The C code doesn't really know about cl-defstructs (or advice objects).
> Wouldn't it make sense to teach the C `prin1' about those (and also call
> out to the Lisp level for the objects that have a specialised print
> syntax)?

Maybe it would.  I tend to think we should focus the C code on printing
data quickly and in a `read`able way (i.e. in sync with `lread.c`) and
benefit from the comfort of ELisp for the implementation of the
human-readable version of the printout where performance is not as
important because we will truncate long outputs anyway.

> We've got something vaguely similar with `print-unreadable-function',
> for instance.

This var is bound to the notion of `read`able, not "human readable",
which is why it belong in the C code (because sadly not everything can
be printed in a `read`able way).


        Stefan






  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-15 16:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-10  3:09 bug#36566: 27.0.50; debug is sometimes horribly slow Michael Heerdegen
2019-07-10  3:18 ` Drew Adams
2019-07-10 11:20 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-07-10 22:46   ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-07-14  0:02     ` Gemini Lasswell
2019-07-15  2:05       ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-08-01  1:06         ` Gemini Lasswell
2019-08-01  0:53       ` Gemini Lasswell
2019-08-01  1:05         ` Noam Postavsky
2019-08-05 19:53           ` Gemini Lasswell
2019-08-19  1:30             ` Noam Postavsky
2019-09-06 16:41               ` Gemini Lasswell
2019-09-11  2:54                 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-09-13 21:08                   ` Gemini Lasswell
2019-09-14 13:44                     ` Mauro Aranda
2019-09-14 14:05                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-14 14:16                         ` Mauro Aranda
2019-09-14 15:47                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-04-25 14:41                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-25 23:23                       ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-04-27  0:37                       ` Gemini Lasswell
2022-04-27  4:42                         ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-04-27 12:28                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-28 17:56                             ` Gemini Lasswell
2022-05-13 16:01                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-14  3:57                                 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-05-14 11:35                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-14 13:52                                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-05-14 15:45                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-14 16:05                                         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-05-14 16:18                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-14 16:54                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-14 18:55                                               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-05-15 12:25                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-15 13:33                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-15 16:13                                                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-05-15 16:25                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-15 16:52                                                       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2022-05-16  1:00                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-16  1:39                                                           ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-05-16  1:44                                                           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-05-16 12:11                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-15  7:47                                           ` Rudolf Schlatte
2022-05-15 12:28                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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