From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#62720: 29.0.60; Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2023 15:44:22 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87a5zj2vfo.fsf@gmail.com> <87wn2modrm.fsf@posteo.net> <87ile6o2ov.fsf@posteo.net> <87y1mz38rl.fsf@posteo.net> <87ile2n0kn.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38424"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 62720@debbugs.gnu.org, Philip Kaludercic , eliz@gnu.org To: =?UTF-8?Q?Jo=C3=A3o_?= =?UTF-8?Q?T=C3=A1vora?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 11 21:45:21 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pmJvd-0009mE-I4 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 11 Apr 2023 21:45:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pmJvQ-00066J-FN; Tue, 11 Apr 2023 15:45:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pmJvL-000660-FQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Apr 2023 15:45:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pmJvK-0002J4-S6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Apr 2023 15:45:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pmJvK-0007bq-EO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Apr 2023 15:45:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2023 19:45:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 62720 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 62720-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B62720.168124227429200 (code B ref 62720); Tue, 11 Apr 2023 19:45:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 62720) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Apr 2023 19:44:34 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38305 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pmJus-0007at-0D for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Apr 2023 15:44:34 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:48044) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pmJup-0007ae-Fc for 62720@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Apr 2023 15:44:32 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 3279180DCA; Tue, 11 Apr 2023 15:44:26 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id F283E803B4; Tue, 11 Apr 2023 15:44:24 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1681242265; bh=pvZ6K3bVIk4ir6PlWIAcDeQk+FJzE5SEovq/8JgqehM=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=R8IuszFfkHtpLC2YKvZdjSj+ZSdKMkmLyH0mkLUxP7GfyrTboLTZurPVp3k+5fhMK lVvxlRq3Yr8wL73yMIBMB+BakFZ/tbUg1PG8Cw5XXvbwiKC53ktZYJfNRpkp/PbHaI xq35aS4x2/OaTbXGhIIBKxnqSpqFRi3NP2E7fvILGXXmc/PeVe0ArGeRaJQdewqy/c GzpYzHV2PooAT2Pe8mgy3lCO17ycFeM51X5HpzaUOFkcJNOMcyD/yociGXT5f9d5lY eAitKXb3QvU+gyX374ABwhVr5dN3J9IEAlOQoD8GsXQLniqby4nO2RoRJjmgI5tAl3 9aZA90NDWehcQ== Original-Received: from lechazo (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 33779120270; Tue, 11 Apr 2023 15:44:24 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87ile2n0kn.fsf@gmail.com> ("=?UTF-8?Q?Jo=C3=A3o_?= =?UTF-8?Q?T=C3=A1vora?="'s message of "Tue, 11 Apr 2023 12:02:48 +0100") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:259674 Archived-At: > Thanks. I've just tested 'M-x package-update-all' with my patch. It > updates the built-in and the manually installed packages that can be > updated. It _doesn't_ install any packages that weren't installed yet, > of course. Hmm... it might make sense to treat builtins specially in this respect. Of course, maybe it's OK, but for some reason I feel a bit uncomfortable with the idea that `M-x package-update-all` would update all the `:core` packages. I'm not sure why, admittedly, but I think it comes down to the fact that the first upgrade of a `:core` package from GNU ELPA feels to me more like an "install" than an "upgrade". Stefan