From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 68075@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#68075: 30.0.50; New special form `handler-bind`
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2024 23:56:17 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvwmss2vfy.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83h6jx0xez.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 01 Jan 2024 19:35:16 +0200")
>> >> So, IIUC, reading that text makes you feel unsure, but you don't really
>> >> know what you're unsure of?
>> >
>> > Oh, but I do: the two references to "dynamic", including one to
>> > "dynamic binding" seem to indicate quite unequivocally that "dynamic
>> > binding" vs "lexical binding" could be involved.
>>
>> Yes, it is involved: statically scoped vars are not affected, while
>> dynamically scoped vars are affected, which is why the text says
>> "dynamic".
>
> Ah, so lexical binding _is_ relevant to this, in the sense that
> lexically-bound variables are _not_ affected!
Right, it's relevant to the extent that it's ... not relevant :-)
> Then please say that, maybe in parentheses or as a footnote.
OK. [ Tho I feel it is kind of silly, since as soon as you consider
actual examples, it should become obvious that it has to be the case. ]
> And please don't use "statically scoped",
I use it in email messages, because I consider it to be the better term,
from a technical point of view. But indeed, I don't use it in the docs,
because it's too late to fix it there.
>> Sadly, I still fail to grasp what kind of change to the wording could
>> address the problem because I still don't really understand the problem.
>> Maybe you could try to rewrite that bit in a way that you find more
>> clear (or if there's still some part of the behavior over which you have
>> doubts, then I'd be happily to try and explain it further).
>
> I hope now it is more clear.
Kind of. I still don't understand how/why it helps you, but at least you
say it does, which I guess is good enough.
Stefan
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Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-12-28 6:33 bug#68075: 30.0.50; New special form `handler-bind` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-28 8:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-28 18:12 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-28 18:14 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-30 7:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-28 18:25 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-28 22:04 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-30 7:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-31 19:07 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-31 19:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-01 15:37 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-01 16:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-01 16:55 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-01 17:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-02 4:56 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2024-01-04 23:57 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-05 0:38 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-05 0:50 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-05 2:57 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
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