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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Daniel Colascione <dancol@dancol.org>
Cc: 15899@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#15899: 24.3.50; regression: `region' overlay is lower priority than default
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 10:42:24 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvvbzr11rf.fsf-monnier+emacsbugs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5288B5D1.2000301@dancol.org> (Daniel Colascione's message of "Sun, 17 Nov 2013 04:25:53 -0800")

> Can you provide an example of an actual case where two overlays should be
> ordered one way in one context and another in a different context? Nothing
> comes to mind at the moment.

No, I admit to not having a concrete case to give you offhand (I do
remember that we have bumped into such problems in the past, tho).

The issue boils down to the fact that we generally don't want an overlay
to hide another.  But priorities are not a good way to solve this
problem, since the "hiding" depends on the relative position: if an
overlay A is nested within another overlay B, then A should be "on top"
in order not to be hidden, and if later the relative position of
A changes such that B is now nested into A, then B should now be "on top".

Sometimes we really do want one overlay to "be on top", including hiding
another, and in that case priorities can work OK.

> I don't think numeric priorities are as big a social problem as you suspect:

Indeed, there's also the general problems of priorities, e.g. where
A wants to be on top of B, C wants to be on top of A and B wants to be
on top of C.  And I agree that in practice these issues aren't all that
bad.  But overlays have their own additional issues, specific to
their nature.


        Stefan





  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-17 15:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-14 22:57 bug#15899: 24.3.50; regression: `region' overlay is lower priority than default Drew Adams
2013-11-15  7:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-15 13:54   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-15 14:40     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-15 15:32       ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-11-15 16:40         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-15 22:35           ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-11-16  8:49             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-16  9:51               ` Jarek Czekalski
2013-11-16 10:42                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-16 14:43                   ` Jarek Czekalski
     [not found]                 ` <<83ppq0hbln.fsf@gnu.org>
2013-11-16 16:23                   ` Drew Adams
2013-11-16 16:52                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-16 22:01                     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-16 22:42                       ` Drew Adams
2013-11-16 10:25               ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-11-16 11:24                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-16 13:49                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-11-16 16:30                     ` Drew Adams
2013-11-16 16:20                 ` Drew Adams
     [not found]                 ` <<83ob5kh9nb.fsf@gnu.org>
2013-11-16 16:24                   ` Drew Adams
2013-11-16  1:25       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-16  9:06         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-16 17:45           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-16 18:01             ` Drew Adams
2013-11-16 22:00               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-17 12:25             ` Daniel Colascione
2013-11-17 15:42               ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2014-02-10  4:14         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2013-11-15 15:51     ` Drew Adams
2013-11-16  1:26       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-16  3:47         ` Drew Adams
2013-11-15 16:53 ` Barry OReilly
     [not found] <<"<20137354-f982-4314-9c09-21a5fbc36557"@default>
     [not found] ` <<"<jwvsiux4vrn.fsf-monnier+emacsbugs"@gnu.org>
     [not found]   ` <<"<87mwl58yvc.fsf"@yandex.ru>
     [not found]     ` <<834n7dipnq.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]       ` <<"<83wqk8hgtf.fsf"@gnu.org>
     [not found]         ` <<7031ba1e-2f47-4dd0-908a-938c26016e12@default>
     [not found]           ` <<83k3g8gug7.fsf@gnu.org>
2013-11-16 17:47             ` Drew Adams
     [not found] <<78b8713a-e96f-4b4d-990a-3af59ebdf942@default>
     [not found] ` <<83zjp5h33w.fsf@gnu.org>
2013-11-15 21:21   ` Drew Adams
     [not found] <<00aa91d2-10a2-4a78-bb95-042d1596a41c@default>
     [not found] ` <<8338mxipix.fsf@gnu.org>
2013-11-15 17:14   ` Drew Adams
2013-11-15 19:33     ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found] <<20137354-f982-4314-9c09-21a5fbc36557@default>
     [not found] ` <<83ob5mi02j.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]   ` <<jwvsiux4vrn.fsf-monnier+emacsbugs@gnu.org>
     [not found]     ` <<83bo1liv80.fsf@gnu.org>
2013-11-15 15:55       ` Drew Adams
2013-11-15 16:43         ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found] <"<20137354-f982-4314-9c09-21a5fbc36557"@default>
     [not found] ` <"<jwvsiux4vrn.fsf-monnier+emacsbugs"@gnu.org>

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