From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20322: 25.0.50; indent-tabs-mode should default to nil Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 00:58:04 -0400 Message-ID: References: <861tjn3069.fsf@yandex.ru> <552D20B6.8030005@yandex.ru> <83mw2abul3.fsf@gnu.org> <552D34BC.4090806@yandex.ru> <83h9sibt0q.fsf@gnu.org> <552D7796.2090109@yandex.ru> <83vbgx9xtl.fsf@gnu.org> <55307468.8070307@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1429246763 3975 80.91.229.3 (17 Apr 2015 04:59:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 04:59:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 20322@debbugs.gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 17 06:59:11 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YiyMx-0002l3-8c for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 17 Apr 2015 06:59:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39485 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YiyMw-00056O-JY for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 17 Apr 2015 00:59:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49493) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YiyMs-000566-99 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Apr 2015 00:59:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YiyMp-0000my-3e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Apr 2015 00:59:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:40467) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YiyMp-0000ms-0S for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Apr 2015 00:59:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YiyMo-000271-Dz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Apr 2015 00:59:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 04:59:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20322 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 20322-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20322.14292466908058 (code B ref 20322); Fri, 17 Apr 2015 04:59:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 20322) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Apr 2015 04:58:10 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58476 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YiyLx-00025u-Nw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Apr 2015 00:58:09 -0400 Original-Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:33070) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YiyLv-00025m-As for 20322@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Apr 2015 00:58:08 -0400 Original-Received: from pastel.home (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id t3H4w4ME028821; Fri, 17 Apr 2015 00:58:05 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id AEFE0102C; Fri, 17 Apr 2015 00:58:04 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <55307468.8070307@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Fri, 17 Apr 2015 05:48:08 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV5278=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9393 : core <5278> : inlines <2741> : streams <1423789> : uri <1908767> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:101604 Archived-At: > How, then, will the users change that value? With `add-hook', > `xxx-mode-hook' and a lambda function? Yup. Adding more mode-specific variables to circumvent the problem is not a good idea. If add-hook+lambda is considered too cumbersome, we can wrap it in some function/macro to make it look prettier. I personally find that Custom should grow a way to set the value of those variables "per mode" or maybe even "per directory". Stefan