From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#41988: 28.0.50; Edebug unconditionally instruments definitions with &define specs Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2021 14:12:02 -0400 Message-ID: References: <6D19F14E-0133-4751-B0BD-EC2A73C1D21F@gmail.com> <3619E155-8F06-4F8F-B239-121ED3D164A8@gmail.com> <83blam59r4.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21814"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 41988@debbugs.gnu.org, Philipp To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 10 20:13:47 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lVI78-0005ax-JF for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=mBmqZMtJEQIfh9SVTuXXODWLeymNKhu0YQb27IFd1Puo7cIYPn+0WwrTW3VBRQTlQ CmFxtLr3FFuyH3ofg81ySLFKiODaWzajKVHTE1A9sYhYmQ7g5wWbUjb0XxSCgrIStg rRji3V0/PEuwSQwBzElAHjregrvIcczu6qcFx1YRubgsutOj9H+/QRi66ax9kj2kW2 3o4fjlQ0mlNGZ8tzMZQsDCMQIngcXtILlbIqmulAp7PEeYB3SBuX7sW9akdRl2F0c2 0C6y7v0UhTCVqDtf/Lfg1rMEl6oxlekZ+ItYfKLTTtvfCfUHFOFdq8h/VlTAMyzLgx qjvfJPAnQnYaA== Original-Received: from alfajor (104-222-126-84.cpe.teksavvy.com [104.222.126.84]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D4D1C12067B; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 14:12:02 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <83blam59r4.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 10 Apr 2021 20:29:03 +0300") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:203816 Archived-At: >> +** The '&define' keyword in an Edebug specification now disables >> +backtracking. > > Please add here a pointer to the ELisp manual where this is described, > as the text otherwise is too terse to speak for itself. > > Also, the heading line should be a single complete sentence, and the > NEWS entry should be marked "+++", since the manual is being updated > by the same changeset. > > (I have no opinion on the change itself, although it strikes me as > unusual to delete a feature rather than fix it.) It's a "feature" that's been broken for ever, that noone knows how to fix, and for which we know no current user. Also the new `&name` can be useful to avoid the need for that feature, so in a sense we did provide a kind of fix in the form of a new alternative solution. Stefan