From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13814: 24.3.50; Dynamic variables shadowing prevent defvar Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 10:41:09 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87hal0199m.fsf@orion.kollektiv-hamburg.de> <87y28tt0q1.fsf@gnus.org> <87wno9lrfu.fsf@gnus.org> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16561"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 13814@debbugs.gnu.org, Jorgen Schaefer To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 25 16:43:07 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mIu7O-00045R-Pk for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2021 16:43:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35092 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mIu7N-0007tt-FI for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2021 10:43:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42388) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mIu6M-0005KI-EL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2021 10:42:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:35741) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mIu6M-0008Nx-6C for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2021 10:42:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mIu6M-0005rD-2g for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2021 10:42:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 14:42:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13814 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo confirmed Original-Received: via spool by 13814-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13814.162990248122464 (code B ref 13814); Wed, 25 Aug 2021 14:42:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13814) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Aug 2021 14:41:21 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47287 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mIu5h-0005qG-LN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2021 10:41:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:58103) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mIu5e-0005q0-K2 for 13814@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2021 10:41:19 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id BA3E6809C6; Wed, 25 Aug 2021 10:41:12 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 9C3018078F; Wed, 25 Aug 2021 10:41:10 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1629902470; bh=GiRTgZreURL0hcfEkjvZkC8bSZ7eD56aO4HaWyCqnGw=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=d8HkyTD6O+Y9c9bcVgT3rJh4KvomYNM2JvvB/efh/KqVFsDsAdMRfpNhY/oWrSr7O LQFk9GlS5yX2UhCOOAnhQfhCtIsq+qUM8TaY1pyoRGYTYx2jy/KOqK7ugbVNy3xdPG sDRKAgwCuzm/jiY+IHzrdSOEEdXNpzQ55T+B2T0cle1f8y1L/wEqRZMCgDkSDldKI1 89KvrKW1Ju5myPEDlI/0X2QQxHi2sxN8wheLSSBj8sjMoLmfmHSuRfUsr+5sXHSW8L Rp2LK0NQOCYc3Pi/OrrXK1R/1B8YFPNFnIoUxbeg8VD0rjrlKtmuy5/GCubA1HkYKF QBTps8hjm3mDA== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [104.247.244.135]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5312B12044C; Wed, 25 Aug 2021 10:41:10 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87wno9lrfu.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 25 Aug 2021 13:00:37 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:212639 Archived-At: > That's being defeatist -- surely theory implies that time travel should > be available any day now... I heard it was available in early versions of Emacs, Stefan