From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#10688: The default mode for Perl should be cperl-mode instead of perl-mode Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:25:32 -0400 Message-ID: References: <8762fmbmwn.fsf@lifelogs.com> <1351159277417-268030.post@n5.nabble.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1351189568 11126 80.91.229.3 (25 Oct 2012 18:26:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 18:26:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 10688@debbugs.gnu.org, draxil , Jonathan Rockway To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 25 20:26:15 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TRS8B-0005Qf-9f for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 20:26:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40032 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TRS83-0006Fw-IC for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:26:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56942) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TRS80-0006B2-05 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:26:00 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TRS7y-0006SV-Oj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:25:59 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:51610) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TRS7y-0006SR-LG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:25:58 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TRS9y-0004eF-T6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:28:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 18:28:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10688 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 10688-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10688.135118966117825 (code B ref 10688); Thu, 25 Oct 2012 18:28:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 10688) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Oct 2012 18:27:41 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33625 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TRS9c-0004dR-8I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:27:40 -0400 Original-Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:42007) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TRS9a-0004dJ-2y for 10688@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:27:38 -0400 Original-Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q9PIPWZk014046; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:25:33 -0400 Original-Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id E05EAB4278; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:25:32 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Thu, 25 Oct 2012 12:17:35 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV4382=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.2.0.9309 : core <4382> : streams <845336> : uri <1252289> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:66045 Archived-At: >> The main problem is that the cperl-mode code's maintainership has some >> problems (poor communication and some disagreements between Ilya and the >> Emacs team). > Note that there does not seem to have been an upstream release for ~ 4+ > years, AFAICS. The traditional upstream location is 403 today, but > exists in search engines caches. > A braver man than I has already forked it some years ago; > https://github.com/jrockway/cperl-mode Let me put it some other way: If/when someone is willing and able to take over maintenance of cperl-mode (starting with cleaning up the Emacs-19-style-code-cruft), then I might consider switching the default to cperl-mode. But it might be easier to start from perl-mode and add cperl-mode chunks to it. Stefan