From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19346: 25.0.50; url-http-parse-headers: Symbol's function definition is void: gnutls-available-p Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 09:47:30 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87mw6uxxma.fsf@sealion.lowtem.hokudai.ac.jp> <87zjat3egg.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87mw6uxxma.fsf@sealion.lowtem.hokudai.ac.jp> <831to6t6c2.fsf@gnu.org> <87sigm3r48.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83ppbpsxtu.fsf@gnu.org> <87zjat3egg.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87mw6uxxma.fsf@sealion.lowtem.hokudai.ac.jp> <831to6t6c2.fsf@gnu.org> <87sigm3r48.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83ppbpsxtu.fsf@gnu.org> <87bnn92efo.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1418395711 508 80.91.229.3 (12 Dec 2014 14:48:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 14:48:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: hi@yagnesh.org, 19346@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 12 15:48:23 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XzRW2-0004kg-Ff for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 15:48:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57632 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XzRW1-0007lo-Px for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 09:48:22 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40158) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XzRVq-0007lU-Nf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 09:48:18 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XzRVi-0003iB-Px for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 09:48:10 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:34221) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XzRVi-0003hw-Mc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 09:48:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XzRVi-0003kJ-0i for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 09:48:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 14:48:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19346 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: fixed Original-Received: via spool by 19346-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19346.141839565714366 (code B ref 19346); Fri, 12 Dec 2014 14:48:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19346) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Dec 2014 14:47:37 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43587 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XzRVJ-0003jd-FV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 09:47:37 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:57513) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XzRVI-0003jR-MF for 19346@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 09:47:36 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: As0IAOwQflTO+ILA/2dsb2JhbABVBoMHUoMOyBWCYgQCAoEkFwEBAQEBAXyEAwEBBFYjEAs0BwsUGA0kiFPWWQEBAQEBBQEBAQEBHZAsQweESAWLAaQugXiCN4FiIYJ3AQEB X-IPAS-Result: As0IAOwQflTO+ILA/2dsb2JhbABVBoMHUoMOyBWCYgQCAoEkFwEBAQEBAXyEAwEBBFYjEAs0BwsUGA0kiFPWWQEBAQEBBQEBAQEBHZAsQweESAWLAaQugXiCN4FiIYJ3AQEB X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.07,502,1413259200"; d="scan'208";a="100279335" Original-Received: from 206-248-130-192.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([206.248.130.192]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 12 Dec 2014 09:47:30 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id AF2952F23; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 09:47:30 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87bnn92efo.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Fri, 12 Dec 2014 08:19:39 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:97263 Archived-At: SM> And what I'm saying is that (require ' nil t) SM> *is* the replacement for (-available-p). SM> There is no need for any manual management. > I really think they are different things. One loads the module, the > other indicates the module's functionality is available. Check again: gnutls-available-p *does* load the module (if available). It's very unusual to test whether something is available and yet not make use of it when it is, which is why those two concepts are usually conflated, which makes things simpler. If you really need to check without loading, you should be able to use `locate-library'. Stefan