From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#32544: [ELPA] core packages need generated files Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2018 07:54:46 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87mut797fd.fsf@gmx.de> <4dh8jfo090.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1535458309 23229 195.159.176.226 (28 Aug 2018 12:11:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2018 12:11:49 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 32544@debbugs.gnu.org, Michael Albinus To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 28 14:11:45 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fucqW-0005v1-Mf for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 28 Aug 2018 14:11:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37857 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fucsc-0001pV-VJ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 28 Aug 2018 08:13:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33905) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fucot-0005s4-Bp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Aug 2018 08:10:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fucaM-0003M2-BJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Aug 2018 07:55:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:58148) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fucaM-0003Lq-7L for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Aug 2018 07:55:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fucaM-0005mH-2b for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Aug 2018 07:55:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2018 11:55:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32544 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 32544-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32544.153545729522193 (code B ref 32544); Tue, 28 Aug 2018 11:55:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 32544) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Aug 2018 11:54:55 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34933 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fucaE-0005lt-PI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 28 Aug 2018 07:54:54 -0400 Original-Received: from pmta31.teksavvy.com ([76.10.157.38]:21146) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fucaD-0005ld-5I for 32544@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 28 Aug 2018 07:54:53 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A2HxBwB1N4Vb/6bHSC1aHAEBAQQBAQoBAYMlKiRBfyiIIINji3Q1gg0TlhMUgWYLGxOEPgKDRSE0GAECAQEBAQEBAgICaRwMgmhLagEBAQEBASMCDWQBBAF5BQsLDQEmEhQYMYM1gXkIpEMaAopHiVYXggCBEoMShEsBEgGFVSICmywJhjOFdoNdgT8gKINqgkciA4Vsk0mBQTlhcTMaCDCDJAmDLQEMh1KFWiMwimKCOwEB X-IPAS-Result: A2HxBwB1N4Vb/6bHSC1aHAEBAQQBAQoBAYMlKiRBfyiIIINji3Q1gg0TlhMUgWYLGxOEPgKDRSE0GAECAQEBAQEBAgICaRwMgmhLagEBAQEBASMCDWQBBAF5BQsLDQEmEhQYMYM1gXkIpEMaAopHiVYXggCBEoMShEsBEgGFVSICmywJhjOFdoNdgT8gKINqgkciA4Vsk0mBQTlhcTMaCDCDJAmDLQEMh1KFWiMwimKCOwEB X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.53,299,1531800000"; d="scan'208";a="44284895" Original-Received: from unknown (HELO fmsmemgm.homelinux.net) ([45.72.199.166]) by smtp.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 28 Aug 2018 07:54:46 -0400 Original-Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 8719AAEBF7; Tue, 28 Aug 2018 07:54:46 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Mon, 27 Aug 2018 22:13:06 -0400") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:149799 Archived-At: >> I think the reasons why I'm more worried about elpa.gnu.org than the >> end-user's machines include: >> >> - very little time between the moment we receive the commit-diffs by >> email and the moment the code is run. So even if we notice the >> offending code on the spot, there's not much time to react. >> - elpa.gnu.org is part of infrastructure that Emacs users trust when >> downloading GNU ELPA packages (e.g. it holds the PGP signing key), so >> a breach could affect all GNU ELPA users (especially if not >> noticed). One more reason: - elpa.gnu.org *can* run that code in a sandbox, whereas the end-user really wants to run the package's code in his "real" system (or otherwise would need to run his whole Emacs session in a sandbox). > Sounds very sensible, best of luck! :) Hmm... looks like you forgot to attach the patch to your message. Could you send it again, please? Stefan